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Originally posted by psrpom239 Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 28, 2005 12:49 PM Nothing happened to Florida citrus. Someone should start a group for that, also. The scope of our group is on one region and three railroads (four if you count the Pacific Electric). Most of my resources plus my physical ability to personally visit existing packing houses, railroad facilities, libraries, city museums, etc. is centered in Southern California. My two major collaborators have this same focus. That said, some of the material and resources we are identifying (e.g.: National Perishable Freight Commission, icing stations, East Coast produce terminal operations, citrus grove equipment) would apply to citrus/railroad operations in Arizona, Texas and Florida as well. Bob Chaparro Moderator Citrus Industry Modeling Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ Reply Edit tatans Member sinceMay 2004 4,115 posts Posted by tatans on Monday, March 28, 2005 8:00 PM O.K. to us people living in Siberia South, you may as well be talking about trains on Venus, what would we see on a "citrus" train? Gondolas filled with oranges? tank cars loaded with orange juice? boxcars filled with grapefruit and oranges? this is something a lot of people in North America probably cannot comprehend, let's have some more info and possibly some photos of this seemingly "bizarre" form of railroading, sounds interesting. Reply Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Monday, March 28, 2005 8:37 PM A "citrus train" would be a string of refrigerator cars loaded with crates of oranges. Our group is focus on everything from the growing of the oranges and lemons to packing them for shipment to transporting themby rail to delivery at produce terminals. In between we focus on preparing the refrigerator cars and reicing them in transit, plus how these car were used when returned to Southern California. We examine modeling all of this, the history of the business and the social impacts. Bob Chaparro Mission Viejo, CA Group Owner & Moderator Citrus Industry Modeling Group http://groups.yahoo.com/group/citrusmodeling/ Reply Edit Anonymous Member sinceApril 2003 305,205 posts Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, March 30, 2005 5:41 AM QUOTE: Originally posted by psrpom239 While we are mainly interested in theOrange County to Ventura area, we do have some discussions on areas to the North, especially when we discuss PFE operations. In addition, one of our main supporting links on packing houses (Historic Packing Houses and Other Industrial Structures in Southern California at http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/scph.html) recently has expanded coverage up to the San Joaquin Valley. And many of our resource files and operations discussions apply to refrigerator car and perishable operations anywhere in the country. Bob Chaparro Group Moderator Dear Bob, Its great to see a new specialized group that is focusing in on a very important California industry that has been overlooked for years within railfanning and modeling circles. And it is your group, but it was the inclusion of the San Joaquin Valley area into the co-op, that created the "California Fruit Growers Exchange," what all of us now know as Sunkist, and the majority of modelers or historian are looking at the industry post March 27, 1905. Does this group also support discussion of the Exchange's buying arm; the Fruit Growers Supply? A small plug here: http://home.att.net/~lassen.logger/fgs06.htm With a photo here: http://home.att.net/~lassen.logger/p9606-01.htm This is a subjective statement, but I think in the last 100 years, the California citrus industry, which was the California Fruit Growers Exchange was about eating citrus and not about juicing citrus. Jim - Lawton, NV MP 236 Reply Edit Join our Community! Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account. Login » Register » Search the Community Newsletter Sign-Up By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy More great sites from Kalmbach Media Terms Of Use | Privacy Policy | Copyright Policy
Living nearby to MP 186 of the UPRR Austin TX Sub
QUOTE: Originally posted by psrpom239 While we are mainly interested in theOrange County to Ventura area, we do have some discussions on areas to the North, especially when we discuss PFE operations. In addition, one of our main supporting links on packing houses (Historic Packing Houses and Other Industrial Structures in Southern California at http://ljames1.home.netcom.com/scph.html) recently has expanded coverage up to the San Joaquin Valley. And many of our resource files and operations discussions apply to refrigerator car and perishable operations anywhere in the country. Bob Chaparro Group Moderator
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