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<p>[quote user="tree68"]</p> <p> </p> <div class="quote-header"> </div> <blockquote class="quote"> <div class="quote-user">VOLKER LANDWEHR</div> <div class="quote-content">I'm always surprised how easily people pick on Euclid's post just because he is Euclid but not willing to contribute anything and hide behind excuses. If someone acuses someone else of writing garbage he should proof/explain it. Otherwise I can't take this person seriously.</div> </blockquote> <div class="quote-footer"> </div> <p> </p> <p><span style="color:#003300;font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">Usually, behavior such as that has some basis in past experience.  I don't think anyone has picked on Bucky just because he's Bucky.  He's established a reputation.  </span></p> <p> [/quote]</p> <p>I think he got a reputation attached. By the way a repution is not more than a facade. Only when you see what backs a reputation you can judge it. And there lies a problem some have with Euclid. He doesn't give his credentials and that seems to unsettle some.</p> <p>Many here believe that only experts can be right and that is pure nonsense. Instead of checking what he says, and he often supports his opinions with citations, some react as if everything must be wrong, him not being an expert. Reading thinks? Why, facts could come into the way of preocupation.</p> <p>[quote user="tree68"]</p> <p> </p> <blockquote class="quote"> <div class="quote-user">VOLKER LANDWEHR</div> <div class="quote-content">I find it totally okay that someone offers an opinion though he is not sure of all detail or even might have some wrong.</div> </blockquote> <div class="quote-footer"> </div> <p> </p> <p><span style="color:#003300;font-family:'comic sans ms', sans-serif;">And this has been a part of the issue in the past.  Bucky offers an opinion which is factually incorrect, then bases further conclusions on that opinion as though it was fact.  If called on the mistaken conclusion, "yes, but."</span></p> <p>[/quote]</p> <p>In the early stages of a thread the "yes, but" is what he explains in his post. The "but" can mean disagreement or asking for clarification. If it gets repetitive I leave the thread.</p> <p>Euclid should learn to recognize when he can't convince anybody anymore in thread and stop his repetitions.</p> <p>When he offers a, in your view wrong, opinion, and is called, I find it only natural to try to back it up. There is a difference between some here and Euclid and e.g. me. We don't naturally believe experts. I had to clean up a number mistakes of so called experts that tend to question them.</p> <p>Going in these discussions/speculations open minded and nonbiased would help a lot.</p> <p>The first Doon thread is a good example for another phenomenon. When railroads are questioned the circle-the-wagons mentality comes through regardless of fact. The conclusions I drew might have been wrong but by ignoring the facts some provoke the "yes,but".</p> <p>A last point, you blamed for covering the bases. What do you think what NTSC does? They go through the evidence and make a long list of possible causes. Cause by cause is checked against the evidence to eliminated causes. Often you need further investigations and sometime you need to get back to a cause you thought you eliminated already.</p> <p>So covering the bases is a natural process in accident investigation.<br />Regards, Volker</p> <p> </p>
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