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[quote user="Saturnalia"]Science is fact. Research is theories, which can lead to facts. [/quote] To use a dictionary definition: knowledge about or study (research) of the natural world based on facts learned through experiments and observation So it not just knowledge to the way to achieve new knowledge too. [quote user="Saturnalia"]95% of climate scientists agree that climate change may be caused by humans, but can't prove it. [/quote] Nobody said that there is already proof. But the evidence is so high that it would be, at least in my opinion, grossly negligent to ignore it and do nothing while waiting for proof. The proof will come too late to reverse the evolution and in our or our childen's generation. Looking from the outside I recommend to take of the political filter and look at evidence and facts and consinder in what state lo leave the earth to our successors. Who else than governments should handle such country wide or global issues? Industry disappears for a number of reasons. I live in the city of Essen in the German Ruhr Area. We had once 460,000 people employed in coal mining. In 2018 the last mine will close. Of about 30 steel mills just one is left and it is endangered. They got uneconomical and higher emission standards were part of it. The air was worse on a daily basis here than in LA. The emission standards had very positive effects worth the costs. Regards, Volker
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