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[quote user="Euclid"]It is not intended to be a derogatory label. I intend it to mean liberal as opposed to conservative. Liberalism refers to quantity; and advocates more government as in a liberal quantity of government. Conservative does the opposite in advocating minimal government.[/quote] That sounds derogative to me, but perhaps I don't understand English good enough for such fineness. To put as you call the more liberal Republicans into the left-wing (see your own definition) is quite a stretch. Well, I see it differently. On last sunday you posted the following: No, there is a leftist agenda alright.  It just so happens that their warning of manmade climate change gives the left everything they have always longed for. Lets stop this discussion here. I fear I'll never understand your thoughts and feelings for central government. Regards, Volker
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