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[quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]Volker modern record keeping of weather overall has only been a science for about 120 years total. The predicting of weather patterns even with modern day tech is still a 1 in 3 chance of getting it wrong.[/quote] You are talking of weather prognosis not climate. Some climate models start up to 1,000 years ago using data from tree rings, ice drill cores etc. [quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]However a volcano like Mt Etna or Kilawhwa still releases more in 2 weeks than the largest coal fired powerplant in 1 year. [/quote] But it is not just CO2 but lots of ashes that have a cooling effect. When climate scientists tried to approximate the measured temperature development only using natural sources including vulcano eruptions it didn't work. Including manmade greenhouse gases they had success. [quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]So stop saying we are the only cause of climate change in 4.5 Billion years this planet has warmed cooled and will do so again and again.[/quote] Sorry but I never said so. I said part of the global warming is manmade. But that is the only one we can influence. [quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]Take the Paris Climate Accord. The USA was hammered in it yet China and India the Largest Polluters in the world were allowed to keep going.[/quote] The USA weren't forced into the Paris agreement they joined voluntarily. China and India ratified the agreement too. I don't know the goals for the individual countries. If they are lower for China and India thereare reasons. Here are a few data that might help to understand: Summerazing the global CO2 output from 1850 to 2005 the very few developed countries (incl. USA) contributed 61%, the developing countries (incl. China) 39%. The USA alone produced 27%, China 11%. If you take the per capita output the USA has 16.2 tonnes and China 6.6 tonnes. [quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]Also islands sinking is not because the water is rising it is called weathering and erosion and compression. Start reading up on that before making those claims. Water is one of the most powerful agents in this nation. [/quote] Then you know how long the Colorado River needed to dig the Grand Canyon. The latest prognosis is that the sea level might rise 7 ft til 2100. [quote user="Shadow the Cats owner"]Why was that simple we are a fully devolped country they aren't yet our President at the time was to dumb to realize that was the goal. [/quote] I better don't comment this. Regards, Volker
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