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Will Our Rail-Friendly President Reinstate the Caboose?

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Monday, December 21, 2020 10:17 AM

I have yet to see a Sperry car that didn't look like a pre-1933 EMC doodlebug.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 21, 2020 10:45 AM

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Flintlock76

Speaking of ancient road signs, anyone remember the old "Children Playing" warning signs with the silhouette of the running boy wearing knickers?

 

Yes but I always had issues with the 

 

"TRAVEL AT YOUR OWN RISK" 

When don't you travel at your own risk?

 

My favorite is "Limited sight distance ahead". Isn't that always true?

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Posted by samfp1943 on Monday, December 21, 2020 11:08 AM

CSSHEGEWISCH

I have yet to see a Sperry car that didn't look like a pre-1933 EMC doodlebug.

 

 
I haven't been in one of those old Sperry Rail Inspection [#134] cars since Moses made corporal....and Southern Rwy was still 'The Southern' @ Forrest Yard in Memphis...Whistling
What we have out here in Fly-over Country are all medium chassis trucks ; that resemble a cross between an ambulance and delivery truck. Seems that all, of that type work is now 'contracted' out to Herzog. (?)
As to waiting and wanting the Caboose(s?) to come back....The ones thqt have not been scrapped, are now hunting cabins, play houses, or even the odd 'shoving platform'.     You can bet they'll return about the time the Unions require a fireman with a shovel on the diesel locomotives....
                                                        or FRED gets a Union Card.Sigh
 

 

 


 

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Posted by NittanyLion on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:19 AM

Semper Vaporo

 

 
Flintlock76

Speaking of ancient road signs, anyone remember the old "Children Playing" warning signs with the silhouette of the running boy wearing knickers? 

 

Can't say that I remember those, but there are still those insulting signs around that say, 

 

"Slow Children at Play".

 

A couple of years ago, I got a text from my dad, who was at the laundromat with my mom and quite bored.  It was a picture of a sign taped to the door that read:

NO

DOGS

SMOKING

ALCOHOL

He followed this up with "dogs definitely shouldn't smoke alcohol."

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Posted by Overmod on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 8:58 AM

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My favorite is "Limited sight distance ahead". Isn't that always true?

Not if you're a globetard-denier!

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Posted by SFbrkmn on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 2:24 PM

The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods.

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 4:28 PM

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With no more cabooses, are engineers as careful with how they start a train (regarding slack action) as they would have been when there was crew riding on the tail end?
 

Yes.  You can still break a knuckle or pull out a drawbar and they tend to frown on either of those things happening.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 4:29 PM

SFbrkmn
The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods.

Not too much different from shoving with someone riding the rear car.  Granted, I do both with regularity.  Not that hard - air is your friend. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by jeffhergert on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 4:50 PM

zugmann

 

 
SFbrkmn
The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods.

 

Not too much different from shoving with someone riding the rear car.  Granted, I do both with regularity.  Not that hard - air is your friend. 

 

I had to shove 10000 ft/8900+ tons about 3/4 of a mile with the conductor riding the rear car to make a rear end pick up this morning.

The best compliment I've ever received was from an old head (now retired) conductor who used to ride waycars as a young trainman.  He said he wouldn't be afraid to ride a caboose with me up front. 

Even so, with the 2 to 3 mile trains, even with DP, the slack action can still be harsh.  That's why we aren't allowed to ride DP consists when deadheading by train.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 4:54 PM

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It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by BaltACD on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:37 PM

jeffhergert
 
zugmann 
SFbrkmn
The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods. 

Not too much different from shoving with someone riding the rear car.  Granted, I do both with regularity.  Not that hard - air is your friend.  

I had to shove 10000 ft/8900+ tons about 3/4 of a mile with the conductor riding the rear car to make a rear end pick up this morning.

The best compliment I've ever received was from an old head (now retired) conductor who used to ride waycars as a young trainman.  He said he wouldn't be afraid to ride a caboose with me up front. 

Even so, with the 2 to 3 mile trains, even with DP, the slack action can still be harsh.  That's why we aren't allowed to ride DP consists when deadheading by train.

Jeff

To think - back in the day (days before I hired out) when crews were deadheaded, they, in many cases, were deadheaded on their 'assigned caboose' that was attached next to the working caboose that brought up the rear of the train with a working crew.

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Posted by SD70Dude on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:54 PM

zugmann
SFbrkmn
The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods.

Not too much different from shoving with someone riding the rear car.  Granted, I do both with regularity.  Not that hard - air is your friend. 

Wi-Tronix tattles on us if we power brake out on the road.  But it's ok when switching.

We are allowed to pull a brake in notch 4 or less, and are not allowed to release the automatic while in throttle.  Anything else is a violation.

It doesn't matter what you do with some trains in some areas, it'll still be a rough ride.

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:57 PM

SD70Dude
Wi-Tronix tattles on us if we power brake out on the road.  But it's ok when switching.

It tattles if you fart in the cab.  

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by zugmann on Tuesday, December 22, 2020 5:58 PM

SD70Dude
We are allowed to pull a brake in notch 4 or less, and are not allowed to release the automatic while in throttle.  Anything else is a violation.

If we ran liek that - half of our cusotmers wouldn't have bumping blocks anymore. 

It's been fun.  But it isn't much fun anymore.   Signing off for now. 


  

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Posted by MMLDelete on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 8:06 AM

When I worked for GA/AWP, AWP conductors had their own cabooses. GA conductors did not. 

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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, December 23, 2020 4:43 PM

SD70Dude

 

 
zugmann
SFbrkmn
The industry has now been through an entire generation of engrs that have never operated a train w/a manned caboose on the end. Different train handling methods.

Not too much different from shoving with someone riding the rear car.  Granted, I do both with regularity.  Not that hard - air is your friend. 

 

 

Wi-Tronix tattles on us if we power brake out on the road.  But it's ok when switching.

We are allowed to pull a brake in notch 4 or less, and are not allowed to release the automatic while in throttle.  Anything else is a violation.

It doesn't matter what you do with some trains in some areas, it'll still be a rough ride.

 

For us, it's considered power braking (actually they use the term, "stretch braking.")  if you release the air brake above notch 6.  Unless of course, it's the EMS calling for it. (I've not had EMS request air braking in power, but it does strange things other times so I wouldn't be surprised if it did.)

That notch has bounced around from 4 to 2 back to (currently) 6.  They realize that some territories and/or trains, you have to use air.  This will last until they get more "experts" who've never actually ran a train, other than maybe on the simulator.

Jeff  

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