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RME
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Posted by RME on Sunday, November 20, 2016 1:11 PM

I don't know whether to laugh or cry at the story's reference to "Linke-Holfmann-Bush" coaches and their anticlimbing and supposed non-overturning features.  Interested readers might want to review the technology provided via Alstom LHB (both to see how to spell it and what's actually provided in addition to AAR tightlock coupling for anticlimbing).  For the life of me I don't see how any bogie technology assures that cars will stay upright after derailing.

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Posted by Paul of Covington on Sunday, November 20, 2016 2:59 PM

   And from BBC news:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-38041755

   Not really much more information.

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Posted by Euclid on Sunday, November 20, 2016 7:43 PM

One significant safety system being implemented on India Railways is the installation of derailment detectors on passenger cars which will apply the air brakes the instant the first wheelset derails.  We were discussing this about a year ago when I proposed equipping oil trains with derailment detectors and ECP brakes. 

I assume the India Railways is not yet using ECP brakes, but they have moved ahead with the derailment sensors, which still offer a safety advantage with conventional pneumatically controlled pneumatic brakes.   

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/railways-to-have-derailment-detector-device-to-prevent-mishap/

 

 

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Posted by BaltACD on Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:19 PM

Euclid
One significant safety system being implemented on India Railways is the installation of derailment detectors on passenger cars which will apply the air brakes the instant the first wheelset derails.  We were discussing this about a year ago when I proposed equipping oil trains with derailment detectors and ECP brakes. 

I assume the India Railways is not yet using ECP brakes, but they have moved ahead with the derailment sensors, which still offer a safety advantage with conventional pneumatically controlled pneumatic brakes.   

http://indianexpress.com/article/india/india-others/railways-to-have-derailment-detector-device-to-prevent-mishap/

Afraid good emergency braking would create more issues.

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Posted by Euclid on Sunday, November 20, 2016 8:48 PM
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Posted by Euclid on Sunday, November 20, 2016 9:14 PM
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Posted by wanswheel on Sunday, November 20, 2016 11:39 PM

Excerpt from AP article

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/115-dead-150-injured-in-train-derailment-in-north-india/2016/11/20/5f32c1fa-af56-11e6-be1c-8cec35b1ad25_story.html

The derailment occurred near the village of Pukhrayan, outside Kanpur, an industrial city about 250 miles southeast of New Delhi. The Patna-Indore Express train, linking the central city of Indore to the city of Patna to its northeast, completes its 845-mile journey in 27 hours…

Kanpur is a major railway junction, and hundreds of trains pass through the city every day.

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Posted by CMStPnP on Monday, November 21, 2016 1:54 AM

Indian National Railways I thought was slightly smaller than the BNSF rail network.

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