Trains.com

WTO approves sanctions against the U.S-How will this effect trains?

725 views
5 replies
1 rating 2 rating 3 rating 4 rating 5 rating
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: St.Catharines, Ontario
  • 3,770 posts
WTO approves sanctions against the U.S-How will this effect trains?
Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:00 AM
I just read a few articles about an anti-dumping law that has annoyed the European Union, Canada, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, India and Chile and so they are interested in imposing trade sanctions against the U.S-something to do with the Bryd Amendment? Anybody else here about this?

How bad would this effect the railroads particularly intermodal?
Andrew
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: US
  • 304 posts
Posted by andrewjonathon on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:34 AM
I agree. Consider the long term impact of the 27% tariff the US imposed on Canadian softwood lumber trade a couple of years ago as an example. While initially the effect may have been painful and the railroads lost some transborder shipments, the longer term impact was that it forced the Canadian lumber mills (interestingly many of them American owned) to become even more efficient in order to continue to compete in the market place. Today, over here on the westcoast the stream of lumber trains heading south on the BNSF from BC seems to be even heavier than before the tariffs were put in place.
  • Member since
    April 2003
  • 305,205 posts
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, November 28, 2004 11:49 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by Junctionfan

I just read a few articles about an anti-dumping law that has annoyed the European Union, Canada, Mexico, South Korea, Japan, India and Chile and so they are interested in imposing trade sanctions against the U.S-something to do with the Bryd Amendment? Anybody else here about this?

How bad would this effect the railroads particularly intermodal?
On dumping[?]
The US is very good about handling waste. The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) keeps close watch on how American consumers dispose of worn out products produced by Europe, China and Japan and the others. Believe me all of this free trade is producing a lot of trash and filling our existing landfills. Everytime US producers try to ship goods to foreign markets we hear whining. Whats is fair about a 500 billion dollar trade deficit? Our markets are wide open to their products, but their markets are closed to our products. The US is the worlds largest free market. Can't say that about any other nation.
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: US
  • 304 posts
Posted by andrewjonathon on Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:13 PM
That sounds like whining to me. The US has a trade deficit has less to do with the trade policies of other countries and more do with the insatiable appetite of US consumers for cheap products from Asia and high end products from Europe. I would suggest that all of this internation trade with Asia and Europe has been very good for North American railroads.
  • Member since
    January 2001
  • From: Midwest
  • 718 posts
Posted by railman on Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:56 PM
You're right, trade has been good, but it's pretty sad that the WTO comes after the US- because we're trying to save a little domestic industry. Let's not actually do something about China- keeping it's currency artificially low; keeping wages low, and working conditions that are dangerous at their best.

If any other country in the world pulls something like the US is doing, it's "okay." When we do it or complain about it, then we're the bad guys. Go figure.

On railroads, if less is being shipped, then I guess traffic to and from the ports will also dip.
  • Member since
    February 2004
  • From: St.Catharines, Ontario
  • 3,770 posts
Posted by Junctionfan on Sunday, November 28, 2004 4:31 PM
Does anybody know of this case and the positions of the parties? Not knowing the whole story kind of stinks and so I can't make or begin to make an informed opinion.
Andrew

Join our Community!

Our community is FREE to join. To participate you must either login or register for an account.

Search the Community

Newsletter Sign-Up

By signing up you may also receive occasional reader surveys and special offers from Trains magazine.Please view our privacy policy