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[quote user="edblysard"] In any debate, there is of course an opposing position, and dissention is to be expected. The postings that were removed were neither insulting nor rude, but simply a way some posters chose to express their disagreement with the original assumption of the thread starter, and to have fun at the same time. Nothing was there that was not completely civil, nor were the jokes “inane”, unless you didn’t understand the joke and the symbolism….of course, calling something you dislike or don’t grasp as “inane” is also simply expressing a personal opinion. Any position opened to debate, especially one that expresses an opinion should be able to withstand something as simple as a joke, if that position is based on established and cited facts and the person defending that position is prepared with those facts, instead of supposition and guesses. When presenting an opinion in a public forum, one should make it quite clear that what you are expressing is just that, your opinion, but if you present your opinion as if it carried the weight of established and cited facts, one should be prepared to be challenged to produce evidence, none of which seems to have appeared here. Simply crying foul, and complaining about being picked on, is hardly a good way to support ones position, and if that position is so weak that a few one line jokes can erode its foundation and makes the poster and his defenders feel threatened, then maybe the original position is not quite as defendable as the poster wishes. In simpler words, if ya cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. [/quote] I have no objection to dissention.  I have made many statements which I have said were my opinion, but I think it goes without saying on the forum.  I have also supplied many links to references.  I had nothing to do with the moderator’s decision to remove that last round of posts in the other thread.  And I don’t feel that anything has threatened my position or eroded the foundation of any part of my last three threads. Actually, I kind of like a hot kitchen.
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