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[quote user="edblysard"] Not quite correct, what the NTSB stated was .... •1.     Based on their medical histories, both crewmembers on the striking coal train were at high risk for sleep disorders and fatigue. <ul> <li>2. Based on the conductor's and the engineer's irregular work schedules, their medical histories, and their lack of action before the collision, both crewmembers on the striking coal train had fallen asleep due to fatigue. </li> <li>3. Had the two crewmembers on the striking coal train completed the BNSF's fatigue training program, they would have had the opportunity to learn that they were at risk for sleep disorders, particularly obstructive sleep apnea, and the computer-based training program would have displayed a message advising them to consult with a physician. </li> </ul> It does not specifically state they had been diagnosed with a sleep disorder by a doctor, nor does it conclude they were in fact  suffering a disorder, only that they were at "high risk". It does make a definitive statement to the effect they were asleep. <blockquote> <div><img src="/TRCCS/Themes/trc/images/icon-quote.gif" /> Bucyrus:</div> <div></div> I should mention that this thread is based on my interpretation of this NTSB synopsis in which last year’s Iowa collision on the BNSF was found to be due to a medical disorder in both members of the crew.      <a href="http://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/2012/red_oak_ia/index.html">http://www.ntsb.gov/news/events/2012/red_oak_ia/index.html</a> <div style="clear:both;"></div>   </blockquote> <div style="clear:both;"></div> [/quote]         Ed,  <o:p></o:p> I understand your point about the report only saying that they were at risk for sleep disorders.   But the report also says this:  <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> “Based on the conductor's and the engineer's irregular work schedules, their medical histories, and their lack of action before the collision, both crewmembers on the striking coal train had fallen asleep due to fatigue.” <o:p></o:p>  <o:p></o:p> That is what I base my conclusion on that the NTSB asserts that both crewmembers had fallen asleep.
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