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Is Amtrak Crash Nevada’s Fault?
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<p>[quote user="tdmidget"]</p> <p>In seriousness though, Bucyrus, if you are shilling for some law firm or otherwise have an interest in this board agreeing with you, give it up. This is a group of people who know that there is no excuse, anywhere, anytime, to hit or get hit by a train.</p> <p>If you trouble yourself to see the location on Google earth you will see that there is a huge RRX on the pavement 700 feet before the crossing. So you can't say he did not have advance warning. You will also see that he could have seen an approaching train for a half mile in either direction. So you can't say he could not see the train. Since this was a regular loadout for him you can't say that he was not familiar with the crossing. Additionally as a holder of a CCL he is expected to exercise more caution than the average driver.</p> <p>So, signals were there and working, he had warning, he could see,he was familiar with the route. Did he exercise even the caution expected of a grandmaw who drives once a week?</p> <div style="clear:both;"></div> <p>[/quote]</p> <p> </p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">I have no interest in the forum agreeing with me.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But I don’t think the forum is of one mind on this, as your comment suggests.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And plenty of people who are not registered members also read the forum.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There is no way to know what they think.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Obviously the driver did not yield to the train, so in that regard, the driver has to be at fault.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But extenuating circumstances can exist in any collision, including grade crossing crashes.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>It is simply not true that, as you say, “there is no excuse anywhere, anytime, to get hit by a train.”<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Sometimes the signals fail to activate or provide a too short of a warning.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">I see no harm in asking questions and considering all the plausible explanations for what happened in this Nevada crash.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I do not expect that the driver bears no blame, or that Nevada bears all the blame.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>And I have not reached any conclusions about the blame or cause.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But it seems like a number forum members have.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>There seems to be some consensus that we must wait for the final investigation; <span style="text-decoration: underline;">unless</span> we believe the driver was 100% at fault.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Then we don’t have to wait for the investigation.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Everybody says a driver must not be distracted.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Yet, every driver is distracted to some extent every foot of the way they travel.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>So distraction is not a black and white issue of either being distracted or not being distracted.</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">So the traffic authorities try to mitigate the abrupt life or death situations with warning. <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They construct the warning to give more than what is needed in order to allow for some degree of distraction.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>You mention the RXR painted on the road ahead of the crossing.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>No doubt, there are also advance-warning signs.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I am only asking if more warning would have been prudent, or would have prevented the crash.</span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;"> <o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-family: verdana,geneva;"><span style="font-size: small;">Yet some are incredulous that I am suggesting an extended warning.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>They insist that no extra warning was necessary and that the driver had all the warning he needed.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>But consider this:<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>The warning begins with the primary warning of the crossing signals and gates.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>Why should there be any more warning than that?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>If that were all the warning there was, for example, and I suggested painting RXR on the road, would forum members insist that that was not necessary?<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span>I think they would.<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </span></span></span></span></p> <p> </p>
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