Should beer companies have their own roadrailers?-poll

[Junctionfan]

With the amount of people who drink beer and the demand for it right away sometimes particularly after a hard days work, superbowl and sometimes before a hard days work; I wonder what if the beer companies have thought about this.

[Randy Stahl]

What a wonderful derailment that would be !!!
Randy

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

What a wonderful derailment that would be !!!
Randy

Mark me for the crew...

I'll bring a cooler to keep 'em for later...

LC

[fuzzybroken]

I like it!!! Considering all the trailers sitting down in Miller Valley here in Milwaukee, this would be great!!!

-Mark
http://www.geocities.com/fuzzybroken

[Randy Stahl]

Keep me off the crew !!!! I don't want a damn **** test !!
I'm not planning on being able to pass one ~!!
Randy

[dharmon]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

What a wonderful derailment that would be !!!
Randy

Yeah......

The Dan and Randy Beverage Emergency Evaluation & Response (BEER)Team......We'll take it from here...you folks stand back...and get some pretzels for us ...STAT![:p]

[Junctionfan]

I think it would be amazing that despite the fact that only a few trailers would derail, you would get emergency services from several different cities around along with many citizens. Now that is community service.[(-D]

[Mookie]

and you are keeping it cold, how?

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

and you are keeping it cold, how?

Like I said, I'll bring the cooler...

LC

[Modelcar]

....If roadrailers makes business sense to haul beer or anything else, why not....

[gabe]

Doesn't Burlington Northern Santa Fe haul more beer than any other railroad? I think I remember reading that somewhere and remember the term was "beer" rather than beer ingrediants. I have to admit thinking to myself, how do they make a profit on that!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Mookie

and you are keeping it cold, how?

Mook-

If you mean while the trailers are in service, I would assume they would be refrigerated if necessary. I would point out that a lot of beer moves in unrefrigerated boxcars so it may not be necessary.

LC

[Mookie]

While the trailers are in service and in a siding waiting.....for a local church key to go by....

[dharmon]

[C):-)] ......" Transportation of an alcoholic beverage across state lines...sounds like a felony's bein' perpetrated here...I'll be confiscatin' this here trailer as evidence.....and this can or beer nuts..."

[dharmon]

If I rememeber correctly, beer is normally transported in insulated box cars vice reefers. It doesn't neccessarily keep them cool, but it keeps it from getting too hot or freezing. Generally only an unpasturized beer ..like Coors I believe needs to be kept cool. As far a refrigeration goes I have seen refrigerated containers and trailers on trains (propane or diesel power..not sure).

[cherokee woman]

QUOTE: Originally posted by dharmon

QUOTE: Originally posted by Randy Stahl

What a wonderful derailment that would be !!!
Randy

Yeah......

The Dan and Randy Beverage Emergency Evaluation & Response (BEER)Team......We'll take it from here...you folks stand back...and get some pretzels for us ...STAT![:p]

Dan you better add Walt's name to your list of first responders: he'll feel left out!![angel]

[Anonymous]

As i recall from a Trains article several years ago, Lone Star was using Amtrak to deliver to the west coast from Dallas.

The key was speed vs. using UP which would take much longer,

Don't know what type of car was used but shows in one way the need for some shippers to have a faster way of shipping than general freight.

[spankybird]

Years ago, it was the RR that made the beer companies, the size that they are.

There was an episode on Trains Unlimited about it.

BTW, many of the model train companies provide the good old days.

Let’s Have a Cold One

Here are some beer refers.







And here is a few shot of our C & O Alleghany pulling them










Click on the Video and then click on file to see the C & O in action pulling the refers.

Video

tom

[Anonymous]

if they want to spend the money sobe it. by the way nice pics.

[Allen Jenkins]

Thanks Mark, for the info, I wondered what you were thinking on last nights post. I used to drink Coors, both in 1977, whilst working for Avondale Shipyards in New Orleans, at lunch (across the street, with my redbeans&rice, yea your'right!) which is located on the westbank of the Mississippi River. Also trucking, only after we arrived in California, and unloaded, when later in the day, we would get a motel, and with dinner. Smokey and the Bandit, was based on moving Coors to a new market, which pushed the market availability across the Big Muddy. Your right, most trucked beer is at ambient temperature, and canned at any temp. above the dew point. At that level, water enters the can, and flattens the taste. I like the idea, because it makes for a high volume traffic, however the absolute need for a backhaul, (translate to more trucks of the Interstate, more local trucking, more families together at night). In unmarked trailers, you'd never know. A pallet of beer, is 168 cans per tier, 14 tiers high, 24 to 28 pallets per trailer, thats 56 to 59,000 cans per trailer. Of course kegs, and long neck bottles, may be returned, for refill. Yes, Anheuser Busch reuses brown glass. Fun to think about. acj.

[Anonymous]

To add to my previous very vague recollection, Lone Star chose Amtrak for a Friday pickup in Dallas and delivery in LA by Monday. This, at the time, apparently beat out over the road by the truck. That is about all I can recall.

[Anonymous]

FYI--Manufacturers Railway Co in STL was started and is operated by Anheuser Busch primarily to ship its beer. Busch got tired of paying freight rates to others so he formed his own common carrier and saved a bundle.

And I agree with Mark. I can see no good reason for subbing RBLs etc with roadrailers. High volume beer operations in major metro areas are generally still set up for carload freight, which can handle the volumes better than a fleet of trucks (especially when the brewery owns the cars and is the originating carrier).

[Allen Jenkins]

I understand, I've talked to the transportation director, in St. Louis, and at that time, he was using National Freight. In Jacksonville, Florida, however, I wonder if Comcar Ind. Inc. is still doing Busch/Jax? Bet!