ns-bnsf merger

[Anonymous]

Hi:
is it true that norfolk southern's merging with
bnsf.
please respond back

[zwspnby9]

Please consider the JULY 2005 issue of TRAINS Mag. In it you will find the article "Analyzing the merger" BNSF/NS included!!!

[silicon212]

Wow, this was more than 5 years between posts!

[zwspnby9]

I am sorry I didn't sign up 5 years ago. Did you like what I recommended?
I really hope I helped you out some. Sorry it's been 5 years. I was thriled to see, wow, a response already! and it was posted in Jan. 2001! Hope I can Help you!

[Anonymous]

Rumor!

[chad thomas]

Dang, how many pages back do you have to go to find a 5 year old post.[%-)]

[rockymidlandrr]

I hope its a rumor, I would hate to see Norfolk Southern go. Its my railroad for the South. I f the rumor is true, there will be more mergers coming soon to create two giants so dont be surprised.

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Michael Stephens
McCalla, Alabama

[Anonymous]

E-mail the STB. The'll have all the answers to all these crazy Rumors.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Dang, how many pages back do you have to go to find a 5 year old post.[%-)]

That is someone who has entirely too much time on their hands. Yikes.

[coborn35]

I thought posts got deleted after one year?[%-)]

[MStLfan]

There is another ghost thread about superliners from 2001. Where do they come from?
Marc

[BaltACD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by chad thomas

Dang, how many pages back do you have to go to find a 5 year old post.[%-)]

It is easier to do than you think!

[Anonymous]

I agree: Rumor.
On the other hand......when it does happen, the UP/CSX will probably merge and then the CP will merge with one of those two and the CN will merge with the other one. All the smaller roads will also be devoured at about the same time. Wonderful...we will have three railroads! What a bunch of C***![V][V][V]

[BaltACD]

QUOTE: Originally posted by lrenee

I agree: Rumor.
On the other hand......when it does happen, the UP/CSX will probably merge and then the CP will merge with one of those two and the CN will merge with the other one. All the smaller roads will also be devoured at about the same time. Wonderful...we will have three railroads! What a bunch of C***![V][V][V]

I expect the US to be left with two Class I's.


CN & CP

[solzrules]

The STB would never go for it. It would trigger a bunch of mergers that would really cause some monopoly problems.

[Zwingle]

Based on what is transpiring now, it would not be surprising to see a UP-CSX union if BNSF and NS combined. CP and UP are already looking into a possible merger just as BNSF and CN are re-warming the jacuzzi.

I wouldn't worry too much about the class 1's swallowing up the shortlines... They dished them off for a reason to begin with.. Of course there will always be exceptions.. I could easily see UP buying the IAIS to alleviate some capacity problems as they occasionally use them now.

KCS is more the odd-man out, but I think KCS rather enjoys that status. I could see KCS buying the DME/ICE system. That along with their Mexican railway will still leave KCS a formidable class 1 even alongside the other two giants. Keep in mind that KCS would no doubt be granted a plethora of concessions and trackage rights should the others merge into a "Big Two" which seems a likely probablility.

Geez I miss the good old days... [sigh]
I wish I hadn't taken all those obscure branchlines and fallen flags for granted.. [banghead]

[Cheviot Hill]

Wasn't this all talked about in depth? I'm having a bad case of dejavu.
Someone has to much time on their hands. It must be springbreak. That's how they digged this one up.

[fuzzybroken]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

I thought posts got deleted after one year?[%-)]

They used to, or "disappeared", at least. Not sure what got changed. With as active a board as this one is, it was a good thing, but something seems to have changed, and not necessarily for the better...

[Anonymous]

Wow. UP takeing over the IAIS. That would mean the old Rock Island too. Totaly cool.

[edbenton]

The merger to worry about is going to be whichever road swallows up the DM&E since that will give them access to the PRB best case scenario would be the KCS buys the DM&E and the IC&E giving them major access to Chicago and the Canadian lines in MN

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by BNSFrailfan

Wow. UP takeing over the IAIS. That would mean the old Rock Island too. Totaly cool.

Ironically enough, that would be the last piece of the pie which would leave UP with the bulk of the old Rock Island, which it wanted 40 years ago.

[Zwingle]

QUOTE: by farmer03
Ironically enough, that would be the last piece of the pie which would leave UP with the bulk of the old Rock Island, which it wanted 40 years ago.

They did miss out on the Rock Island's KC-Chicago main which was ripped up in the 80's between Ainsworth, IA and Allerton, IA. The old parallel Milwaukee line is still intact and used by ICE, but that doesn't help UP's problem of getting freight (easily) from KC to Chicago without having to pay high rates for using BNSF's lines.

I guess that's karmic justice for UP abandoning the Rock Island after the merger was approved in 1974.. even with RI's poor track condition. I sometimes think about that (almost) merger and wonder.. "What if...?" The Milwaukee and CNW likely would have combined as they almost did anyway.. And then... Oh the possibilities!