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[quote user="Murphy Siding"] [quote user="Bucyrus"] In an analysis of what might become a problem for the railroad business, if we set aside anything to do with government regulations, public financing, railroad business practice, international trade, national business cycles, homeland security, foreign practices, management styles, or geopolitical concerns; we are kind of left with the sound of one hand clapping.    Looking at the topic in that vacuum, I cannot see anything that will be a problem for railroading.  Certainly railroads have demonstrated the ability to deal with virtually any kind of operating or construction problems that have occurred since their inception.  A sudden loss of employees with not enough in the replacement pipeline could be a problem, but I can’t see it becoming a showstopper.  It may require a heroic effort to come up with a new mass production training system, but that is doable.  About the worst I can see would be the ongoing liability from grade crossing crashes, or the possibility of other types of serious accidents.   The one thing that has proven fatal to railroads over and over is loss if business.  However, that has its roots over in those “other” dimensions of this topic.    [/quote]      I think you're missing the point.  The point is, if we allow every thread to become simply a discussion about the government and politics, all we will have is a forum about government and politics.  By now, we're all aware of what your political beliefs are.  We hear it on every thread.  I, for one, do not feel like everything under discussion has to be seen in the black & white frame of politics that you keep interjecting.  Maybe everything in your world revolves around politics and only politics.  I know lots of folks like that.  I don't think the majority of the posters on this forum are like that.      I for one, would like to see if we could talk about trains. -Norris[/quote] This thread is about the toughest challenges facing the industry.  My point was that the toughest challenges are likely to come from the things outside of the industry.  Several are obvious right now, and more will probably develop.  I mentioned the economy as one of those outside things.  I am not sure what constitutes “politics” in the context of the No Politics rule of the forum.  I see here you have included the topic of government in the prohibition of politics.  I would have assumed that politics in terms of the forum rule would mean the praise or criticism of specific politicians and their views.  I certainly would not have thought that anything I said in this thread was out of bounds.  It seems to me that what you are accusing me of, in terms of political posting, is a set of ideas that you see as fitting a political template.  Yet others are constantly posting a set of opposite ideas that fit an opposite political template, and you don’t seem to notice that.  It is as if you have a political viewpoint, and as long as ideas agree with it, you do not see them as being political.  I see this with a lot of people.  If we can’t talk about government, why is it okay to talk about government funding HSR?  We can talk about our desire to ride a fast, new train from here to there for whatever reason; and how HSR is good for the environment, and land use, and is safer than driving.  But if one says they don’t think it is worth spending the public’s money on it, then THAT is political!
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