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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="Paul_D_North_Jr"] <P>One follow-up question regarding your <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">"</SPAN>unique psychological cause<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">" statement above<SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">: Is that assertion one that you saw or read someplace, or your own conclusion from reviewing the article in <EM><STRONG>Trains</STRONG></EM> and the ICC report <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">? I'm not challenging it, either way - I'm just curious - and a little surprised - that this 'syndrome' might have gathered enough 'official' attention to result in a 'finding' to that effect, and if so, I'm curious as to the who/ what/ were/ when aspects of it - that's all.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Thanks again.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN> <P><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">- Paul North.</SPAN></SPAN></SPAN></P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino size=3>Paul, </FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino size=3></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>With regard to this syndrome of last second panic in believing that a properly lined switch is not properly lined:<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>I come to this conclusion that it is a syndrome largely by my own analysis, although I have heard of accounts that seem to corroborate the problem.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It also makes sense logically, because I know that if one were the last to use a switch, the compulsion to second guess oneself about the position of that switch rises as the consequences of that switch being wrong rise.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>I read a story in <I>Railroad Magazine</I> that goes into some detail about this potential pitfall, and how to avoid it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I still have that issue, so I might dig it up to check it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As further evidence of the syndrome, the Robinson wreck plays it out perfectly.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In other words, whether the problem of switch panic is a syndrome or not, it actually happened at Robinson.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It snuck up on the fireman responsible for the Robinson wreck.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems like it could sneak up on anybody, as was the topic of the <I>Railroad Magazine</I> story.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=georgia,palatino size=3>I have also read of one or two incidents where this type of switch panic caused wrecks, and I was given a verbal account of an incident on the Milwaukee Road where a trainman panicked and threw a switch wrong in the face of a passenger train, and then realized his mistake and threw it right again just in time.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>He threw it wrong in the first place, thinking it was wrong and he was throwing it right.</FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>As further evidence of switch panic being a syndrome, there is the rule prohibiting trainmen from standing near the switch during a mainline meet where the consequences of switch panic second guessing would be at their highest.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Somewhere, I have seen confirmation that this is the reason for the rule.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Perhaps it was on this forum not too long ago when we were discussing something related to this.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>I have known about the rule for many years, but up until this recent revelation about the purpose, I had been mistaken about what the purpose for the rule is.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I had thought that the purpose of the rule was to prevent trainmen from being injured or killed if dragging equipment happened to snag the switch and rip out the switch stand, thus injuring or killing a trainman who was standing near it.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>Fatigue and/or miscalculation is another type of cause for switch throwing mishaps.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This is a very common cause for this type of accident in yard switching where it is common to mistakenly throw switches under cars or locomotives.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It seems like a natural peril when one is throwing a lot of switches in a given amount of time, and when one gets accustomed to throwing switches as soon as the wheels clear the points.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino> <o:p></o:p></FONT></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT size=3><FONT face=georgia,palatino>But the kind of switch mistake that I am referring to has an entirely different cause than fatigue and/or miscalculation.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What I am talking about is the panic throwing of a switch where the cause is based on a <U>loss of confidence</U>.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is not the same thing as miscalculation such as occurs when throwing a switch under an engine or car in the yard.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=georgia,palatino></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=georgia,palatino>Other than my own reasoning and antidotal evidence as described above, it would indeed be very interesting to discover some official reference that details this loss of confidence switch panic as a syndrome.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would not be surprised if such a study does exist, but I have not seen it if it does.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></P>
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