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<P mce_keep="true">[quote user="Informed"] <P>[quote user="Bucyrus"] <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva></FONT> </P><FONT face=verdana,geneva>But what was the actual direct evidence that the signals were not working?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I want to know exactly how the physical evidence supported and proved that the vehicle was in the proper lane when it was hit.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Was there fresh damage to the roadway or crossing surface that was within the proper lane for the vehicle?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Were there tire skid marks running parallel with the tracks, and beginning within the proper lane for the vehicle? </FONT><FONT face=verdana,geneva> </FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>The news report linked with this thread says that the police said that the evidence at the scene was consistent with a vehicle running around the lowered gate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>What evidence were they talking about?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do you reconcile their conclusion with your contention that the evidence showed the car to be in the proper lane when hit?</FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT size=2><FONT face=verdana,geneva><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT size=2><FONT face=verdana,geneva>The traffic laws state that the crossbuck at the crossing constitutes a yield sign that requires a driver to look for trains and yield if any are approaching whether the signals are activated or not.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The driver failed to yield.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Doesn’t that place him at fault for the crash?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></FONT></SPAN></P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P mce_keep="true"> </P> <P>To your point, all of the physical evidence put the vehicle in the correct lane of travel. The physical evidence included scrap marks on the pavement, fluid splatter, skid marks, and other debris. Further tests and analysis, including use of an exemplar vehicle, proved that it was physically impossible to maneuver the exemplar vehicle around the gate and put it in the place that the vehicle was impacted by the locomotive. Simply put (I'm not an accident reconstruction expert), the vehicle could not have been impacted where it was, if the gates were down as originally claimed.</P> <P>With respect to the assignment of fault, the jury's decision was that 90% fault was assigned to BNSF, and 10% fault was assigned to the driver. I'm not qualified to speculate on the legal question that you pose above with respect to failure to yield.</P> <P>[/quote]</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>Thank you for that information.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I appreciate the insight you have provided and the clarity of your statements.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>As I understand it, the crash scene evidence places the car within its proper lane of travel at the point that it was struck dead center by the train.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It has been reported that the car was verified to have been traveling at 28 mph at the point of impact.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I further understand that actual vehicle testing at the site proved conclusively that the car, when struck, was positioned in its own lane, parallel with it, and that it could not have gotten into that position had it run around the first gate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If that is true, I can see no explanation other than that the gates failed to activate. </FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>But since the whole case pivots on whether the gates and signals were activated, I have lingering questions about the demonstration that proved that the car could not have gotten into the location where it was hit had it run around the first lowered gate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Did you witness this test?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>When you say that this was proven, I have a question about the term, “proven.”<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>By “proven,” which of the following two definitions do you mean?</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 39.75pt; TEXT-INDENT: -21.75pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 39.75pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>1)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The jury simply accepted the outcome of the test with the exemplar vehicle as proof that the car could not have gotten into the location where it was hit had it run around the first lowered gate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt 39.75pt; TEXT-INDENT: -21.75pt; mso-list: l0 level1 lfo1; tab-stops: list 39.75pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>2)<FONT size=2><SPAN style="FONT: 7pt 'Times New Roman'"> </SPAN>The test with exemplar vehicle proved that outcome in a scientific manner that would with withstand the peer review of the scientific community. </FONT></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>I assume that it would be item #1.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I would like to know who did the test.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Was the exemplar vehicle identical to the vehicle that was struck by the train?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Who was driving the vehicle?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Any driver making this desperate maneuver while actually trying to beat a train is going to try as hard as they can to get back into their lane as quickly as possible.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>How do you know that the driver of the test vehicle made the maximum effort to get back into his lane before reaching the tracks?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>It would be possible to run the test where the only objective was to miss both gates.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If you did that, the car would probably be straddling the two lanes as it crossed the railroad centerline between the two tracks.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>But still, it may be possible to get back into the proper lane earlier by steering into that lane tighter after going around the first lowered gate.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If one were to steer tight enough, the car would go into a side skid or roll over.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN></FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>After going around the first lowered gate, did the test driver push this return steer tight enough to cause the car to go into a side skid, or begin to rise up on two wheels and begin to roll?<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If he did not, I don’t see how the test can conclude that the vehicle in the crash could not have gotten into that position if it ran around the first gate when lowered.</FONT></P><FONT face=verdana,geneva> <o:p></o:p></FONT> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=verdana,geneva>This might seem like nit picking, but the outcome of this test would be riding a very fine line between proving that the gates were either up or down.</FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2></FONT></SPAN> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-fareast-font-family: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-language: EN-US; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><FONT face=verdana,geneva size=2><EM>However</EM>, in thinking about this further, if the car was southbound and the train eastbound as has been mentioned in this thread, then the car would probably have encountered the train on the first of the two tracks.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I looked at some single-track crossings yesterday.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>If the distance between the gate and that first track at the Anoka crossing is similar to the gate-to-track distance in a single track crossing, I think it would be impossible to go around the lowered gate and get fully back into the proper lane and squared up with it upon reaching the track centerline.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It might not be possible at the lowest possible vehicle speed, let alone at 28 mph.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The steering geometry of the vehicle may simply have not permitted the move.</FONT></SPAN></P>
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