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Drug smuggling aboard trains
Posted by NP Red on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:02 PM
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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:22 PM

Just wait til the oil and highway lobby gets hold of this..."get rid of trains because trains allow for the smuggling of contraband into the US."  Its the same story one gets when fear is spread that a passenger train may someday run on the tracks in town!

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 4:43 PM

    Imagine the logistics of trying to find and retrieve a shipment of drugs that some yay-who put on a train somewhere in Mexico, and then marked the car with graffitti! Laugh

To do list:
1) Figure out where the marked car went
2) Figure out how to identify a car "marked with graffitti" in a yard of cars marked the car with graffitti.
3) Casually stop by the yard and retrieve said drugs from secret hiding spot on car before someone else does
4)Explain to the local Mafia Don why his shipment is late or gone missing.
5) Make out last will & testament

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Posted by samfp1943 on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:22 PM

The question that comes to my mind....WHAT IF...Said Railroad loses the car, who takes the hit?

A rock Island boxcar that sat on a spur track on President's Island until about 1999. 

An L&N boxcar that was billed to a company in Az, and turned up still loaded,but bad ordered in NJ about two years later. 

 

 

 


 

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Posted by carnej1 on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 6:48 PM

henry6

Just wait til the oil and highway lobby gets hold of this..."get rid of trains because trains allow for the smuggling of contraband into the US."  Its the same story one gets when fear is spread that a passenger train may someday run on the tracks in town!

Of couse plenty of contraband crosses the borders in OTR trailers as well......

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Posted by henry6 on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 8:06 PM

Carne, you've got to learn that I am an old cynical and sarcastic SOB!

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 9:59 PM

Murphy, what you have listed as #5 should be no later than #3.Smile

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:30 PM

     Eh....call me an optimist.  I put at least as much thought into my list, as that journalist did on the story.Wink

     Welding secret compartments into boxcars to carry drugs? Laugh

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Posted by miniwyo on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:37 PM

 LOL!!! Look at the caption under the photo...... Tongue

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Posted by Deggesty on Tuesday, August 25, 2009 10:48 PM

Laugh

Murphy Siding

     Eh....call me an optimist.  I put at least as much thought into my list, as that journalist did on the story.Wink

     Welding secret compartments into boxcars to carry drugs? Laugh

LaughLaugh I did not fall out of my chair, but you almost made me do so.Laugh

I wonder--was the reporter fed a line or two and swallowed without chewing, or was the reporter speculating as to possibilities (not probabilties)?

As to RJ's comment about the caption under the picture in the news story, it may be that the caption writer, amazingly, remembers what the road was before it was swallowed up.

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Posted by tree68 on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:44 AM

Seriously, though, consider that a package of cocaine or heroine isn't going to be all that large, and there are plenty of places to stick stuff. 

I wonder how much help the smugglers are getting from the other side of the border.  It's entirely possible that shipments could be routed to points well beyond the border if the smuggler is associated with the shipper and is privvy to such information.  Now the receiving dealer doesn't have to know the graffiti - just the reporting marks on the car.  And if they've enlisted help at the receiving industry, they've got all the time in the world to pull the stuff from its hiding place.

As for the caption - it's not the first time....

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Posted by jeffhergert on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 9:42 PM

A few weeks ago there was a news story about employees at an ethanol plant finding a large package of marijuana hidden on a rail car.  Still, that's probably better than what the elevator people at Denison, IA found being smuggled in a covered hopper about 7 or 8 years ago.

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Posted by erikem on Wednesday, August 26, 2009 11:42 PM

Murphy Siding

     Welding secret compartments into boxcars to carry drugs? Laugh

 

Customs found a box welded on the hull of a cargo ship arriving in Miami a number of years ago, so welding compartments into boxcars sounds quite believable to me.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:21 AM

jeffhergert

A few weeks ago there was a news story about employees at an ethanol plant finding a large package of marijuana hidden on a rail car.  Still, that's probably better than what the elevator people at Denison, IA found being smuggled in a covered hopper about 7 or 8 years ago.

Jeff 

 

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Posted by cacole on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:49 AM

 I live close to the border and the amount of drugs smuggled on rail cars is nothing compared to what comes across the border by back pack or road.  Practically every day there is news in the local media about large drug seizures in the area.  And it is estimated by law enforcement that for every pound caught, there are probably 1,000 pounds getting through.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, August 27, 2009 10:51 AM

    I don't recall it being that far back, but the bodies of 7 or 8 people that were trying to enter the US in a UP boxcar from Mexico were found in the boxcar, parked in a siding at Denison, Iowa.

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Posted by BaltACD on Thursday, August 27, 2009 2:16 PM

Smugglers will use any available resource to accomplish their task...

Train - Truck - Car - Body Cavity - Bra

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/2009/08/26/Woman-accused-of-smuggling-cocaine-in-bra/UPI-86001251305422/

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:04 PM

Murphy Siding

    I don't recall it being that far back, but the bodies of 7 or 8 people that were trying to enter the US in a UP boxcar from Mexico were found in the boxcar, parked in a siding at Denison, Iowa.

Covered hopper.  They took the car in a special train to Hull Avenue yard in Des Moines.  To get the bodies out they cut the side of the car open.

There were some indictments but I've lost track as to the outcome.

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Posted by Convicted One on Thursday, August 27, 2009 8:58 PM

Murphy Siding

    Imagine the logistics of trying to find and retrieve a shipment of drugs that some yay-who put on a train somewhere in Mexico, and then marked the car with graffitti! Laugh

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See now? RIGHT HERE IS A BLATANT EXAMPLEof the hippocracy in the moderation of these forums.

If 'hobo" threads are veboten because "hobo'ing is trespassing, and trespassing is a crime" then why shouldn't this thread send you all off on a snit? Afterall, in order for the smugglers to place and retrieve the packages DO THEY NOT HAVE TO TRESPASS in order to do their "thing"? and isn't that traspassing at least as illegal as hoboing?  Not to mention the fact that the cargo itself IS A FELONY and the smugglers are making the RR into aN ACCOMPLICE  in the commission of a felony, interstate distribution.

 

Seems pretty cut and dried to me, assuming the arguments we've been fed up to now are legit.

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:41 PM

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Murphy Siding

    Imagine the logistics of trying to find and retrieve a shipment of drugs that some yay-who put on a train somewhere in Mexico, and then marked the car with graffitti! Laugh

\

 

See now? RIGHT HERE IS A BLATANT EXAMPLEof the hippocracy in the moderation of these forums.

If 'hobo" threads are veboten because "hobo'ing is trespassing, and trespassing is a crime" then why shouldn't this thread send you all off on a snit? Afterall, in order for the smugglers to place and retrieve the packages DO THEY NOT HAVE TO TRESPASS in order to do their "thing"? and isn't that traspassing at least as illegal as hoboing?  Not to mention the fact that the cargo itself IS A FELONY and the smugglers are making the RR into aN ACCOMPLICE  in the commission of a felony, interstate distribution.

 

Seems pretty cut and dried to me, assuming the arguments we've been fed up to now are legit.

Silly me.  What was I thinking?  I'll report this to the moderators PDQ. Pirate 

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Posted by cnwfan51 on Thursday, August 27, 2009 9:46 PM

ASeems to me that a Union Pacific conductor was working with the smugglers and arranged the car to be available to move those poor souls north, trouble was that car sat in Oklahoma for almost 10 before it was ent to be loaded in Dennison. I was the conductor that spotted that train at the ADM elevator. The car as of a year ago was still at Hull Ave yard sitting on blocks the trucks and couplers removed Larry   P.S. As Jeff indicated the conductor in Texas was charged but have learned nothing more,

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Posted by jeffhergert on Thursday, August 27, 2009 11:27 PM

Convicted One

Murphy Siding

    Imagine the logistics of trying to find and retrieve a shipment of drugs that some yay-who put on a train somewhere in Mexico, and then marked the car with graffitti! Laugh

\

 

See now? RIGHT HERE IS A BLATANT EXAMPLEof the hippocracy in the moderation of these forums.

If 'hobo" threads are veboten because "hobo'ing is trespassing, and trespassing is a crime" then why shouldn't this thread send you all off on a snit? Afterall, in order for the smugglers to place and retrieve the packages DO THEY NOT HAVE TO TRESPASS in order to do their "thing"? and isn't that traspassing at least as illegal as hoboing?  Not to mention the fact that the cargo itself IS A FELONY and the smugglers are making the RR into aN ACCOMPLICE  in the commission of a felony, interstate distribution.

 

Seems pretty cut and dried to me, assuming the arguments we've been fed up to now are legit.

I think the difference is that Trains is afraid that any discussions about box car tourists in some way may glorify and encourage that lifestyle.  While I don't encourage that activity either, I would agree that there is some historical relevance that can't be discussed.  Years ago, some travelling by side door pullman were railroaders travelling between jobs, the boomers.   

I doubt that discussing a news item about drug (or human) smuggling is going to make someone reading this think that would be something to try.  

Just in case, anyone reading about anything on these forums, don't try it at home.

Jeff     

PS Larry, I didn't know you were the one that spotted the mtys in Dension. 

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