Train engineer and passenger face charges?

[Murphy Siding]

     Let's keep it civil please.  I really hate to edit and delete posts.

-Norris  user/moderator

[wabash1]

Murphy Siding

     Let's keep it civil please.  I really hate to edit and delete posts.

-Norris  user/moderator

I thought i was quite civil , and I didnt put any volgur stuff into this statement. Like the stuff you edited  out...... LOL

[selector]

Fellas, I am going to close off this thread.  It is too hot, clearly, but not without pointing something out, and I hope I do it both clearly and convincingly. 

First, I teach ethics and morality as it relates to leadership.  I do this at a Canadian university.  One of the preconditions in ethics is that we ought to have informed consent from those who stand to lose something precious (their lives or livelihoods, for example...) when we subject them to risky procedures or conditions in general.  People who pay for a train ticket, or a plane ticket, or who expose themselves to X-rays, do so with the expectation that the person operating the device is licensed and is fully trained....competent, in other words.  Were those on the train in question aware of what was happening at the head end, and should all of us reading this thread anticipate that each one of them would necessarily have given his/her consent to the acts in principle, had they been asked?  Is it reasonable to assume so? 

Clearly, no...and so the act is unethical.  If it is unethical, it is wrong. 

QED.

-Crandell