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[quote user="henry6"][quote user="Bucyrus"][quote user="henry6"][quote user="Bucyrus"] If the solution uses public money, then we should all get a vote on it.  So how can you take politics out of that equation?[/quote] Who said politics is out?  I am saying put individual politics aside, roll up your sleeves, and sit down at the table and work out the problems and do the planning together.  It is what has to be done.[/quote]I don't see how you can put individual politics aside while still retaining politics. When you do the planning together, there are likely to be disagreements.  Resolving those disagreements is politics.  I say do it with private investment.  That way, you can really put politics aside, both personally and collectively.  If something is worth doing, the private sector will do it.      [/quote] The point, and the problem, is that neither private enterprise nor public coffers have the financial ability to attack the needs of transportation on their own.  They need to work together.  You must forget you are a capitlist, forget you are a socialist, or however you see yourself versus the other side and work out the solution.  And it is fact that private enterprise has always worked with and needed government(s) aid in order to become and operate with charters, permissions, bonding, legalities like eminent domain, etc.  And even today private enterprise does likewise; railroads have been leaders of needing government help are looking to government today for solutions to some of their problems.  There never has been, in this country especially, a total seperation of private enterprise and government guidence. And the needs of the public for transportation services and the needs of private enterprise to endeavor to provide those services are not clashing with each other but rather are coming together in order for there to be a prosporous future for both.  [/quote]You say the so-called "transportation crisis" needs to be solved by collaboration of both public and private sectors, yet you say that the solution will be neither socialism nor capitalism.  To me, that sounds like a rhetorical slogan that seeks to have it both ways.  Of course the solution will be both socialism and capitalism, if it is a partnership between the public and private sectors.  I agree that there will inevitably be socialist elements to any solution, but I would prefer to see as little of it as possible.  I certainly don't see socialism as an ingredient that is needed due to a lack of capital in the private sector.  I see socialism as an opportunistic virus that forever seeks to expand itself for its own empowerment by labeling something as a crisis and then telling us that we all have to roll up our sleeves and solve it together.  And wherever socialism is applied, its operatives spread the cost to individuals according to their ability to pay.  So the system takes money from the rich and gives it to the poor, and feeds on that revenue stream in the process.  Dragging their feet on highway construction, shoving LRT down out throats, driving up gasoline prices, promoting the idea of a transportation crisis--these are some of the ways that the socialists work to push us toward socialized transportation, so they can make their socialism bigger.
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