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[quote user="marknewton"][quote user="Bucyrus"]Mark, Let me clear some things up for you.[/quote] You can't. You're not capable of clarity, only obfuscation. [quote] I wonder why you seem so reluctant to believe that there was a hole in the walkway large enough for a person to have fallen through, as the news has reported.[/quote] The "news" has been known to get it wrong, to misrepresent the facts, to lie. Hence my reluctance to unquestioningly accept this claim as true. [quote]I only use the term deathtrap to differentiate relative degrees of danger.  I am not saying that the bridge is not dangerous.  You can call it a deathtrap if you want.  Some people call small cars deathtraps.[/quote] Relevance? None. [quote]But I call that hole a deathtrap to indicate that it poses a far greater danger than all the other aspects of the bridge combined.  Surly you would agree.[/quote] No, I wouldn't agree. You opinion as a layman counts for nothing. [quote]And it would be much more likely to not see a hole in time to avoid stepping into it if it were nighttime, as opposed to broad daylight. I don't know whether the victim had her hand on the handrail at the time of the fall, but I do agree that if there were a hole in the walkway large enough to fall through, a person would be less likely to fall through it if they had their hand on the handrail.  However, even with a hand on the handrail, there is no guarantee that a person could grip the rail sufficiently to keep themselves from going down once they stepped into the hole.  In addition to falling through a hole, one must plan on the possibility of breaking though the walkway because of a weakened condition at some point that is not visually apparent.  For that reason, I would prefer to not walk near the guardrail where one must rely totally upon the single planks to hold him or her up.  That would be like having all your eggs in one basket so to speak.  If I were walking across at night, I would do it as I described, favoring the side nearest the track.  This would place me so far from the handrail that it would not be possible to hang onto it.  Perhaps I could reach it with my arm extended horizontally, but an extended arm is in a much-compromised position to arrest a fall.  So I would forgo the handrail and plan on catching the track rail or other likely more reliable concentrations of features near the track in case my footing gave way.  Those track-related structures are going to be much more structurally reliable than the single planks of the walkway.  And I can assure you that I would not get hit by a train or fall off the bridge as you contend.[/quote] You've demonstrated that you don't know how to conduct yourself safely in a hazardous working environment, so your assurances count for nothing, either. [quote]I am referring to the way I would do it if I had a legitimate reason to be on the bridge.[/quote] I hope for your sake you never do find yourself on a high railroad bridge - you'd become an organ donor in no time. [/quote]Well if you don't trust the news when they say there was a hole in the walkway, why trust anything else they say about the incident?  They reported many facts.  Why not disbelieve them all, and just let the whole story go away?  It seems apparent to me that you are trying awfully hard to avoid the issue of the hole because it apparently works against your argument somehow.  I don't see why it should.  You seem convinced that no trespassing signs or the fact of private property completely exonerates the CN from any responsibility in the matter.  If the police, news media, or victim's friend just made up the story about the hole in the walkway to try to blame the railroad, what difference would it make?  According to you, hole or no hole, she was trespassing, so it's all her fault.  End of story, right?  So why worry about the truthfulness of the alleged hole?  With all due respect, it seems like you are not as sure of your position as you want us all to believe.
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