Turner Classic Movies
Monday, March 23 7 PM Central
Wild Boys of the Road (1933) An impoverished girl masquerades as a boy to run with a gang of young hobos. Cast: Frankie Darro, Rochelle Hudson, Edwin Philips. Dir: William A. Wellman. BW-68 mins, TV-PG.
This one has some decent scenes involving steam trains and those who rode them during the Great Depression. Typical hokey/sappy 1930s melodrama plot is still entertaining.
This one doesn't appear that often.
Ya it has some interesting RR scenes. I was able to track it down on DVD.
BTW the girl in the pic ended up marrying the director, William Wellman.
I will have to keep an eye out for that. Glad to here it is from a simaler time tn the depression. Not saying that's good or anything just seeing some folks that were in the same shape as us.
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bubbajustinGlad to here it is from a simaler time tn the depression. Not saying that's good or anything just seeing some folks that were in the same shape as us.
What a dumb thing to say. What went on in those days was far worse than what we're seeing now -- and if that's how bad off you are, sell your computer right away and go get a job! Methinks you are U.S. history deficient.
Poppazit's view is basically correct - so now let's see what we can do to better inform bubbajustin about such things:
Rent or buy "Emperor of the North Pole" - mainly about a battle between hoboes (Lee Marvin & Keith Carradine, IIRC) riding trains - and a mean, nasty ol' conductor (Ernest Borgnine) whose personal mission in life is to keep them off, regardless of what it takes. Also has steam locomotives, brakemen on car tops, and generally very authentic scenes. Should be rated about PG-13 due to some very graphic violence and "injuries".
One of the opening scenes has a bone-chilling sequence - without a doubt one of the best such ever filmed - where the Conductor's train has a too-close encounter for a meet with an opposing train at a passing siding in fog. It is based on timetable-and-train-order operations and so might be hard to understand today with radio and other modern conveniences, but is entirely authentic. Worth seeing for that alone !
John Steinbeck's "Of Mice & Men" is the classic book and story about the "Okies" migrating to California, but I'm not sure that there's much railroad in it.
Anybody have any other suggestions ?
- Paul North.
EDIT: It's a 1973 movie. Borgnine's conductor character is "Shack" ! His train in the movie is No. 19, from Spokane, Washington, to Portland, Oregon (not sure if the railroad was ever identified). Marvin's hobo character is "A#1"; Keith Carradine's is "Cigarette". The movie was supposedly filmed on Kyle's Oregon, Pacific & Eastern Railroad to capture the look and feel of the movie's setting, and used its equipment. - PDN.
.......Pause a minute....The young man is just 13 years old.Poppa_ZitWhat a dumb thing to say
Poppa_ZitWhat a dumb thing to say
Quentin
Modelcar.......Pause a minute....The young man is just 13 years old.Poppa_ZitWhat a dumb thing to say
In that case, we should thank Justin in advance for the future taxes he will incur to pay the note for what is happening now.
Now, back to the movie. Wasn't there a movie with one of the Carradines set in the depression era? Maybe "Bound for Glory" or something similar.
Jay
Poppa_Zit bubbajustinGlad to here it is from a simaler time tn the depression. Not saying that's good or anything just seeing some folks that were in the same shape as us. What a dumb thing to say. What went on in those days was far worse than what we're seeing now -- and if that's how bad off you are, sell your computer right away and go get a job! Methinks you are U.S. history deficient.
Poppa Zit methinks you owe Justin an apolpgy. I'd like to think your intent was not to discourange a young railfan from posting his thoughts and comments. It's guys like him who are the future of our shared hobby. I just hope Justin is not completely turned off by your remarks. I'm 76 years old and like Justin I don't know it all either. I'd like Justin to know that he has many friends on these forums who will help steer him where and when he needs steering and will do it in a courteous and respectful way.
Mark
Paul,
I'm not trying to contradict you but Steinbeck's classic about the Okies migrating to California was "The Grapes of Wrath", not Of Mice & Men. As good as the book was, I think the movie starring Henry Fonda was better. I would advise anybody who hasn't seen the movie to find it. Depressing as hell. Fortunately for the majority of Americans, this economic climate is far removed from the Great Depression.
Keith Baker
Modelcar .......Pause a minute....The young man is just 13 years old.Poppa_ZitWhat a dumb thing to say
Q -- I knew that. It was half tongue-in-cheek, but he sometimes fails to look before he leaps and therein lies a lesson. He is old enough to be responsible for his strong and wrong statements.
I just figured that with his often-aggressive manner of approaching things and his reluctance to supress opinions on topics he is uninformed, he'd understand. I just wonder where he's getting his information.
KCSfan Poppa Zit methinks you owe Justin an apolpgy. I'd like to think your intent was not to discourange a young railfan from posting his thoughts and comments. It's guys like him who are the future of our shared hobby. I just hope Justin is not completely turned off by your remarks. I'm 76 years old and like Justin I don't know it all either. I'd like Justin to know that he has many friends on these forums who will help steer him where and when he needs steering and will do it in a courteous and respectful way. Mark
No one is trying to discourage anyone from posting thoughts and comments -- but we should all think twice before posting something controversial, especially if we're totally uninformed on the topic.
Justin seems to be quite adept at posting -- as evidenced by his tremendously prolific 376 posts in only 55 days as a member -- an average of 7 every day.
Poppa_Zit No one is trying to discourage anyone from posting thoughts and comments -- but we should all think twice before posting something controversial, especially if we're totally uninformed on the topic. Justin seems to be quite adept at posting -- as evidenced by his tremendously prolific 376 posts in only 55 days as a member -- an average of 7 every day.
Since when is youthful enthusiasm an attribute to be criticized? Characterizing another members remarks as "What a dumb thing to say." and suggesting he sell his computer and get a job is over the top and inappropriate on these forums. I suggest you follow your own advice and "think twice before posting something controversial". If you feel compelled to correct someone I think you're quite capable of doing so in a far more tactful and non-antagonistic fashion.
Awe come on PZ......... With all due respect,are you sure you couldn't just mellow out a little bit? We all say dumb things. It's part of learning. I'd bet Justin will learn more form people who would say "You're wrong, and here's why I think so", as a teacher would, rather than "What a dumb thing to say", hurled at him like a heckler would in a crowd. You have knowledge and the interest in the railroad industry that you could share with others. Why waste it?
Thanks to Chris / CopCarSS for my avatar.
kbaker329 Paul, I'm not trying to contradict you but Steinbeck's classic about the Okies migrating to California was "The Grapes of Wrath", not Of Mice & Men. As good as the book was, I think the movie starring Henry Fonda was better. I would advise anybody who hasn't seen the movie to find it. Depressing as hell. Fortunately for the majority of Americans, this economic climate is far removed from the Great Depression. Keith Baker
Heck, go ahead and contradict me - you're most likely right !
I was writing quick, and "Mice & Men" is what popped into my mind from my feeble memory banks. After your post, I think you've nailed it for the book & movie - and more importantly here, for exactly what I was trying to convey - the movie that depicts the Great Depression in all it's grimness. No problem, buddy - thanks for the assist !
BTW did anyone else keep TCM on after "Wild Boys" to watch the next movie, Wellman's "Other Men's Women" or whatever it was called?? It was originally tested as "The Iron Road" or something like that, and was the story of an SP fireman who moves in with his engineer pal and ends up falling in love with the engineer's wife (who also falls in love with him). It had 2-3 times the railroad action in it than "Wild Boys" did, and had supporting roles played by very young Joan Blondell and James Cagney (as a fellow engineer).
There's a scene in it similar to the one mentioned in "Emperor of the North" where the train barely makes the siding in time...only in this one it doesn't and the engine clips off the corner of the caboose!! As best I could tell it wasn't done with models either...although the later scene of a bridge collapse was.
"Bound for Glory" starred David Carradine as folksinger / writer Woody Guthrie back in the mid 1970's. I recall a railroad scene where a train is going by a 1930's hobo camp...we don't see the engine, but the cars were 60' high cubes!!
Hi,
Popa Zits... I'm sorry for angering you. also anyoneelse that I offended, upset, or made angry you have my deepest apoligises. I didn't mean to start a thing when I wote my post. I have to watch what I post on here and make sure what I write on here won't offend anone at all. Thanks for the person who said I had many friends on the forum. I appricate every one of you guys, beacause I know I can just come on here anythie and ask you guys my question and I know you will answer it. I don't claim to know everyhting but i am eager to learn more about the industry as a whole. Again I'm sorry I offended you guys.
A aery apolagetic,
Justin Sandlin
bubbajustin Hi, Popa Zits... I'm sorry for angering you. also anyoneelse that I offended, upset, or made angry you have my deepest apoligises. I didn't mean to start a thing when I wote my post. I have to watch what I post on here and make sure what I write on here won't offend anone at all. Thanks for the person who said I had many friends on the forum. I appricate every one of you guys, beacause I know I can just come on here anythie and ask you guys my question and I know you will answer it. I don't claim to know everyhting but i am eager to learn more about the industry as a whole. Again I'm sorry I offended you guys. A aery apolagetic, Justin Sandlin
Justin, it's called "tough love". I wasn't offended. No need for any apology to me. Maybe others were upset. That's for them to sort out.
Everyone interprets what they read differently. As I said, your view of history is a bit skewed and as one of the resident rabble-rousers here I wanted to point out your confusion. My reply was far too outrageous to take seriously -- it's my way of shaking things up -- yet apparently some folks here actually thought I was being serious about you selling your computer and getting a job. Like you'd take orders from me and really do it.
As far as the economy goes, it will recover despite all the tinkering going on in Washington. That's what makes Americans so great -- we have a great resolve, and we never quit. When push comes to shove, it will be "we the people", the footsoldiers of a great nation, who fix the problems. No matter what anyone else is saying.
Now, go here and read about the Great Depression and see if it in any way resembles what's going on today -- because it does not.
Here endeth the lesson. There will be a quiz.
PZ
wjstix BTW did anyone else keep TCM on after "Wild Boys" to watch the next movie, Wellman's "Other Men's Women" or whatever it was called?? It was originally tested as "The Iron Road" or something like that, and was the story of an SP fireman who moves in with his engineer pal and ends up falling in love with the engineer's wife (who also falls in love with him). It had 2-3 times the railroad action in it than "Wild Boys" did, and had supporting roles played by very young Joan Blondell and James Cagney (as a fellow engineer). There's a scene in it similar to the one mentioned in "Emperor of the North" where the train barely makes the siding in time...only in this one it doesn't and the engine clips off the corner of the caboose!! As best I could tell it wasn't done with models either...although the later scene of a bridge collapse was. "Bound for Glory" starred David Carradine as folksinger / writer Woody Guthrie back in the mid 1970's. I recall a railroad scene where a train is going by a 1930's hobo camp...we don't see the engine, but the cars were 60' high cubes!!
Wild Boys of the Road:
I had Wild Boys on tape for years but I watched the other night anyways. Always a tough movie to watch. Pretty sad about the Great Depression, which I agree was probably ten times worse than the current mess we are in. Part of the reason we are having problems today is that many young people, and especially many of the adults who are now running the country, just don't know enough about history.
I detest waste, especially of food. My maternal grandparents, who lived through the Great Depression, would always scold about wasting food. They would say, "Finish your food, during depression we were glad to have food because many people didn't have enough." This always stuck with me and I'll remember them saying it for the rest of my life. By the way, my maternal grandfather and great grandfather both worked at what was/would become the GATX Factory in East Chicago, Indiana, making RR Cars during the early 1930s.
Other Men's Women.
Wow, what a great movie. I had never seen it and my friend Street Sweeper Tom told me about it some months ago. So I am glad I stuck around for that one. Lots of great 1930s Steam Location Shots. Man that was great.
TonyM.
Let us not forget the summarily awful Boxcar Bertha starring David Carradine and Barbara Hershey.
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