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MOW un-powered dump truck
Posted by richg1998 on Saturday, March 7, 2009 2:02 PM

I saw this on a siding for the Pioneer Valley Railroad in Westfield, MA not far from the Mass turnpike, exit 3.

No couplers. Chains are used. Two air line quick release connectors. There is a electrical connector I have seen on battery powered forklifts. There is a release handle to allow the dump body to swivel to either side. Might be a nice project for someone who models a shortline.

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Posted by Modelcar on Saturday, March 7, 2009 8:26 PM

That is certainly something different....

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Posted by bubbajustin on Saturday, March 7, 2009 8:53 PM

If no couplers, then how do thay move it? Certanly not push it, especially with a load. I agree though something out of the ordanary. Makes this place one of the most interesting sites I know of. Oh reall dump "TRUCK" (one truck)

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Posted by Namerifrats on Saturday, March 7, 2009 9:56 PM

 You can see the hitches on each end in the pictures. They would pull that behind a hyrail truck, most likely one of the larger 10 wheelers.

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Sunday, March 8, 2009 10:56 PM

Could be just extra load capacity that wouldn't warrant another truck.  Neat to see something different like that.

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, March 9, 2009 7:35 AM

Shades of "Oscar" and "Piker" (two single truck HO passenger cars Walthers sold at one time.)

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:02 AM

tree68

Shades of "Oscar" and "Piker" (two single truck HO passenger cars Walthers sold at one time.)

......Remember the "Tunnerville Trolley"...{or was it "tooner}, I believe it had but just one truck.

Edit:   Just hunted it down and it was:  "Toonerville Trolley".  I refer to the comic strip trolley.

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:21 AM

Modelcar & others -

Yep, it had (barely) a single truck.  I did a Google Advanced Image Search for "Toonerville Trolley" and got a bunch of links.  Here's one that has several different types* of images:

 http://www.MichaelSpornAnimation.com/splog/?p=1500

* Note: The "porn" in the middle of this URL is apparently the result of an unfortunate coincidence in the spelling of his last name - "Sporn".  I didn't see anything risque at all on this page, nor did my computer's filter pick up anything like that.

Interesting little invention, of which necessity - or poverty - is the mother.  Leave it up to a bunch of rails to think up and then actually build something like that.  Thanks for sharing.

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Posted by Modelcar on Monday, March 9, 2009 1:05 PM

Paul_D_North_Jr

Here's one that has several different types* of images:

 http://www.MichaelSpornAnimation.com/splog/?p=1500

....That was fun seeing those pic's of the "Trolley" again.....

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Posted by rdj6737 on Monday, March 9, 2009 8:48 PM

Years ago I saw a unique unit built for much the same purpose.  This ballast hopper was owned by a non-RR RR construction company and was working on a newly built industrial park.

The truck was cut into front and rear, then directly welded under the slope sheets of a wedge-shaped open-top sheet-metal hopper.  Thus it was unsprung.  I figure it could hold quite a few yards of ballast, probably thrice as much as the one above.  Under one slope was cross-mounted a Ford V-8 which was connected via chain-drive to power one axle.  Hey, I don't remember if it was automatic or four on the floor!

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Posted by alangj on Monday, March 9, 2009 11:17 PM

And who among us remembers the old "Smokey Stover" newspaper cartoon strip, with Smokey's two-wheeled (one axle) "foo fighter" fire truck? Alan

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Posted by Modelcar on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 1:48 PM

alangj
And who among us remembers the old "Smokey Stover" newspaper cartoon strip

I raise my hand as one who remembers:  Notary Sojac

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Posted by Paul_D_North_Jr on Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:27 PM

rdj6737
Years ago I saw a unique unit built for much the same purpose.  This ballast hopper was owned by a non-RR RR construction company and was working on a newly built industrial park.

The truck was cut into front and rear, then directly welded under the slope sheets of a wedge-shaped open-top sheet-metal hopper.  Thus it was unsprung.  I figure it could hold quite a few yards of ballast, probably thrice as much as the one above.  Under one slope was cross-mounted a Ford V-8 which was connected via chain-drive to power one axle.  Hey, I don't remember if it was automatic or four on the floor!

The track contractor I worked for had 3 like that, except they were unpowered.  Also, the wheels & axles were from heavy-duty motorcars or track equipment, not mainline equipment - so were much lighter. Approx. dimensions:  8 ft. long, 8 ft. wide, 7 ft. above rail, 4,000 lbs. light weight, capy. 8 to 10 tons of ballast.  The shape as viewed from the side, was roughly riangular - with the point down - and the front and back at a 45-degree angle.  They had 3 sliding doors at the bottom of one end - 1 middle door for between the rails, and 1 outboard side door on each side for outside the rails.  The sides were vertical - at just a little bit (3" or so) inside the tie ends.  They were pulled by ballast regulators, connected by a drawbar - nothing fancy there, just a 2" or so diam. piece of pipe with a clevis or link-and-pin type connection at each end.  We never pulled more than 2 at a time. 

I see this one looks like it has brakes - truck-mounted, inside-only, like WabCoPac or similar - which is definitely a good idea.  Ours didn't, which was OK until - after I'd been there about 4 months (this was about 34 years ago) - the time that one of the ballast cars was on the downgrade side of the regulator That warm afternoon, the nut on the bolt in the clevis - which bolt was inserted from below so that the threads were up and the head was down for the "convenience" [ease] of the foreman - came loose from the vibration.  That allowed the bolt - and hence the drawbar - to drop down.  Just like on "mainline" cars, "Murphy's Law" applies - it's always the wrong or worst end that comes loose - so the drawbar dropped off the ballast car, but stayed attached to the regulator and became wedged and fouled underneath it, so it couldn't go retrieve the ballast car.  Said ballast car then casually rolled away and onto a steeper downgrade, through the rest of the plant, across 2 public road crossings and a number of in-plant road crossings, until it coasted to a stop about a mile away.  Fortunately no injuries, no damage except to pride, and no one the wiser, so Memo to crew:  Ballast cars upgrade of regulator whenever possible, bolts always head on top, cotter-pin or nuts or distort the threads to prevent them from working off accidentally, inspect same frequently during the day, set derail or other obstruction at the limits of our work area so that any runaways would be confined and contained, etc.  No further incidents of that nature during my time there.

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Posted by AgentKid on Wednesday, March 11, 2009 2:21 AM

I don't remember the comic references above, but as I kid I recall seeing what must have been ancient wooden MOW ballast cars used for branch line work. Probably of pre-twentieth century construction. I swear the boxes were no deeper or wider than the one in the picture above but were long enough to need two trucks. Maybe 20 feet long. And it had chutes in the centre and sides like Paul mentioned .The CPR sure new how to sweat the assets.

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Posted by alangj on Tuesday, May 12, 2009 11:31 PM

Now think about it this way...

Smokey's little two-wheeler could well be the 50- or 60-year-old predecessor to the modern-day "SegWay" scooter, couldn't it?

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Posted by Modelcar on Wednesday, May 13, 2009 10:59 AM

If "Smokey" were still among us, he could purchase a modern version of his 2 wheel vehicle....even modify it to his purpose and repeat his once...so odd contracption.

Wonder just what motivated Smokies creator to use just the one axle and two wheel vehicle.

I first witnessed the comic strip in Ligonier, Pa., in a Latrobe paper.....Early 40's.  {Brought into Ligonier daily from Latrobe {10 miles}, via a doodlebug on the Ligonier Valley RR.

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Posted by Andrew Falconer on Friday, May 15, 2009 7:51 PM

Build it and see if it works.

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Posted by richg1998 on Monday, September 27, 2010 9:05 PM

Ok, I am going to resurrect this thread. I found out how the dump body is towed.

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