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[quote user="wjstix"][quote user="nanaimo73"][quote user="wjstix"] <p>Well it's important to understand that Hitler was against the Japanese attack on the US, and was apparently outraged when it happened. The idea that without Hitler the Japanese would have "backed down" is backwards, if anything it might have happened sooner.[/quote]</p><p>You need to take into account that the Dutch and French were defeated, and it looked like Germany was also going to defeat Russia and the British at the time. The Japanese probably felt the time was right to expand their territory.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Plus their plan may have worked if the US carriers had been in Pearl Harbor and had been destroyed on Dec 7th. Without them, what ships we had still afloat would have had no air support and it would have been almost impossible to fight any battles. The US might have had to sue for peace - which is what I think the Japanese hoped would happen...that is, I don't think the Japanese would have tried to invade the mainland US, but with out the US in the war they probably would have been able to invade Australia. </p><p>BTW anyone watch the "Battle 360" series on the USS Enterprise?? Pretty interesting stuff. </p><p>[/quote]</p><p>That's not a realistic projection. The US had massive ship-building facilities and the naval bases at San Diego, San Francisco and of course on the east coast and the gulf. Losing four carriers at Pearl Harbor would never have been cause for Roosevelt, the Congress and the military to consider suing for peace. If we'd lost twice that many, it still wouldn't have prevented our declaration of war - it just wasn't in the mindset of the American people. Heck, after the decimating Japanese naval strike at Port Arthur in 1904, czar Nicholas II (incompetent boob that he was) wasn't compelled to sue fo peace, over Chinese territory that wasn't rightfully a Russian possession. Why would we sue for peace after Pearl Harbor?</p>
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