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CITX OR GITX??
Posted by ButchKnouse on Friday, September 12, 2008 8:59 AM

I live along the DM&E and the other day I saw 2 locomotives I hadn't seen before. One was an old BNSF and the other was an ex-UP. The logos had been painted over.

But they must have got them third hand because the letters CITX or GITX were under the cab windows.

Anybody know what these letters stand for?

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Posted by tcwright973 on Friday, September 12, 2008 9:07 AM

CITX is the AAR reporting mark for PLM International. I couldn't find a "GITX", but thats not to say there isn't one.

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Posted by Mookie on Friday, September 12, 2008 1:23 PM

Ok.  Got up out of my uncomfortable puter chair and went into the other room, rummaged around amongst my notes and yup it's there. 

We have seen only one CITX # 141 here in these parts.  So can confirm that yes, it does exist!

Carry on.

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Posted by CShaveRR on Friday, September 12, 2008 3:45 PM
I'm not sure what's going on with the CITX reporting marks over the past year or so.  The CITX cars owned by PLM International (some of them, anyway) are still in existence, but there's a lot of new freight equipment out there with CITX reporting marks (tanks, gons, and covered hoppers that I can recall) owned by--are you ready for this?--the CIT Corporation.  Since the CIT Corporation has owned locomotives in the past (CEFX), having them show up with this reporting mark is certainly plausible.

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Posted by ButchKnouse on Saturday, September 13, 2008 9:27 AM
It's more than plausible, I'm 52 but I just got new glasses. The train was rolling by at track speed, but if I see one or both parked in the yard at Huron I'll try to get a look while they're standing still.

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Posted by RRFoose on Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:17 AM

CIT lease locomotives generally carry their CEFX reporting marks.  However, when CIT purchased the three EMD SD70M-2 demonstrators, they gave them CITX reporting marks and numbered 140-142.  Why?  I don't know.  I've never seen or heard of GITX, only GATX.  But I'm much less observant when it comes to rolling stock - the show's all up front as far as I'm concerned!

As a side note, I think the CITX SD70M-2's are the only good looking SD70M-2/ACe units out there (err, until KCS came out with the Southern Belles - probably my favorite paint scheme of all time now).  The stripes on the front help that ugly nose.  Plain solid colors just don't work for it...

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Posted by route_rock on Saturday, September 13, 2008 11:23 AM

 Couple of CITX locos in Galesburg the other day,plus saw one on the IC&E heading north last night towards Savanna.

 

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Posted by beaulieu on Saturday, September 13, 2008 1:18 PM
CIT Financial owns both the CEFX and CITX reporting marks. The reporting marks indicate the differing ownership interests of the different groups. CIT manages the cars and locomotives, but they have different partners in the ownership of the two pools of equipment. Helm Leasing is similar with all the reporting marks that they own. 
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Posted by philpax on Sunday, September 14, 2008 4:52 PM

CITX if for CIT (commercial financial business). They also use CEFX.

 no idea about GITX

 

 

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Posted by ButchKnouse on Thursday, September 18, 2008 2:48 PM
 route_rock wrote:

 Couple of CITX locos in Galesburg the other day,plus saw one on the IC&E heading north last night towards Savanna.

 

DM&E and IC&E are of course owned by the same company, and I see lots of IC&E locomotives up here in South Dakota.

Do you see DM&E locos on the IC&E? The paint is the same, you have to read the lettering.

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Posted by CSSHEGEWISCH on Friday, September 19, 2008 8:56 AM
 ButchKnouse wrote:
 route_rock wrote:

 Couple of CITX locos in Galesburg the other day,plus saw one on the IC&E heading north last night towards Savanna.

 

DM&E and IC&E are of course owned by the same company, and I see lots of IC&E locomotives up here in South Dakota.

Do you see DM&E locos on the IC&E? The paint is the same, you have to read the lettering.

I've often seen DM&E and IC&E locomotives in the same lash-up at Clearing.

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