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What If 8........NS Names
Posted by bnsfkline on Friday, November 30, 2007 4:25 PM

What if Norfolk Southern had chosen one of these other 9 Names.....Would we have had a much diffrent company today? Would we still have Conrail around?

 

Crescent Rail Corp, FirstTran Railways, Innotran, NorSouth, Shenandoah, SN&W, Surtran or Terratran?

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Posted by CNW 6000 on Friday, November 30, 2007 7:07 PM
Union Atlantic?  Big Smile [:D]

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Posted by chefjavier on Friday, November 30, 2007 11:34 PM
 bnsfkline wrote:

What if Norfolk Southern had chosen one of these other 9 Names.....Would we have had a much diffrent company today? Would we still have Conrail around?

 

Crescent Rail Corp, FirstTran Railways, Innotran, NorSouth, Shenandoah, SN&W, Surtran or Terratran?

It will be call "Conrail" and it will be run more efficient to compete against CSX.

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Posted by ValleyX on Saturday, December 1, 2007 2:31 AM
Would have been a different name with the same people running it.  Don't see where things would have been much different.  If your name was a different name but you had the same parents and upbringing, would your life be different?
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Posted by jfallon on Saturday, December 1, 2007 8:27 AM
What if CSX had chosen a suggested name, First American Rail Transportation Services? Would their motto have been "like the Wind"?

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Posted by chefjavier on Saturday, December 1, 2007 9:29 AM

 ValleyX wrote:
Would have been a different name with the same people running it.  Don't see where things would have been much different.  If your name was a different name but you had the same parents and upbringing, would your life be different?

You are no comparing apples to apples. That's like saying Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. Look at the Managment Style..Sign - Dots [#dots]

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Posted by chefjavier on Saturday, December 1, 2007 9:29 AM

 jfallon wrote:
What if CSX had chosen a suggested name, First American Rail Transportation Services? Would their motto have been "like the Wind"?

I agree with that quote.

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Posted by ValleyX on Saturday, December 1, 2007 10:38 AM
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
Would have been a different name with the same people running it.  Don't see where things would have been much different.  If your name was a different name but you had the same parents and upbringing, would your life be different?

You are no comparing apples to apples. That's like saying Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. Look at the Managment Style..Sign - Dots [#dots]

 

No, not at all, the same people who were running the Southern and the Norfolk and Western would have been placed in charge of the new Norfolk Southern, whether it be Norfolk Southern or some other name, do you think different folks would have come out of nowhere and ascended to the top?  Don't understand your sports analogy at all, if New England were still the Boston Patriots, would they be different?  If the Red Sox were now the New England Red Sox, would they be different? 

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Posted by chefjavier on Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:28 AM
 ValleyX wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
Would have been a different name with the same people running it.  Don't see where things would have been much different.  If your name was a different name but you had the same parents and upbringing, would your life be different?

You are no comparing apples to apples. That's like saying Miami Dolphins and New England Patriots. Look at the Managment Style..Sign - Dots [#dots]

 

No, not at all, the same people who were running the Southern and the Norfolk and Western would have been placed in charge of the new Norfolk Southern, whether it be Norfolk Southern or some other name, do you think different folks would have come out of nowhere and ascended to the top?  Don't understand your sports analogy at all, if New England were still the Boston Patriots, would they be different?  If the Red Sox were now the New England Red Sox, would they be different? 

Keep in mind tha Conrail stand for Consolidated Railroads. It took six  flags to become an icon in the railroad industry plus established themselves away from the pack. Now, you sports analogy is way out of content. What scramble eggs you are talking about Red Sox and New England. If you are comparing teams not sports. SoapBox [soapbox]

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Posted by ValleyX on Saturday, December 1, 2007 11:32 AM
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 
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Posted by chefjavier on Saturday, December 1, 2007 12:38 PM

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

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Posted by wabash1 on Sunday, December 2, 2007 9:44 AM
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

Are you trying to suggest that if the name was differant the company would be differant? knowing the same people baught the railroad. and one last thing do you even know what norfolk southern is? ( the real company)

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Posted by ValleyX on Sunday, December 2, 2007 9:58 AM

That's the question, Wabash, and somehow, they think that could have made a difference and a difference with subsequent events and the acquisition and splitting of Conrail, too.   At least, they want to speculate that it might possibly have made events go a different route.

 

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Posted by cpbloom on Sunday, December 2, 2007 11:24 AM
I don't understand, how does NS being named something else gonna affect what happens business-wise?
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Posted by chefjavier on Sunday, December 2, 2007 2:30 PM
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

Are you trying to suggest that if the name was differant the company would be differant? knowing the same people baught the railroad. and one last thing do you even know what norfolk southern is? ( the real company)

Keep in mind tha Conrail stand for Consolidated Railroads. It took six  flags to become an icon in the railroad industry plus established themselves away from the pack. Now, you sports analogy is way out of content. What scramble eggs you are talking about Red Sox and New England. If you are comparing teams not sports. SoapBox <img src=" border="0" width="43" height="58" />

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 2, 2007 8:56 PM
 ValleyX wrote:
Would have been a different name with the same people running it.  Don't see where things would have been much different.  If your name was a different name but you had the same parents and upbringing, would your life be different?
Only if it were Clint Eastwood LOL. But really the name of the rr wouldn't matter it's still the same.
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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 3, 2007 12:16 AM
 chefjavier wrote:
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

Are you trying to suggest that if the name was differant the company would be differant? knowing the same people baught the railroad. and one last thing do you even know what norfolk southern is? ( the real company)

Keep in mind tha Conrail stand for Consolidated Railroads. It took six  flags to become an icon in the railroad industry plus established themselves away from the pack. Now, you sports analogy is way out of content. What scramble eggs you are talking about Red Sox and New England. If you are comparing teams not sports. SoapBox <img src=" border="0" width="43" height="58" />

if you recall conrail was owned by the goverment because  the railroad was broke and when the goverments deep pocket taxpayers upgraded it and made it profitable then they sold it. i never saw conrail as a icon they are like amtrak just hanging in there.

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Posted by chefjavier on Monday, December 3, 2007 5:35 AM
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

Are you trying to suggest that if the name was differant the company would be differant? knowing the same people baught the railroad. and one last thing do you even know what norfolk southern is? ( the real company)

Keep in mind tha Conrail stand for Consolidated Railroads. It took six  flags to become an icon in the railroad industry plus established themselves away from the pack. Now, you sports analogy is way out of content. What scramble eggs you are talking about Red Sox and New England. If you are comparing teams not sports. SoapBox <img src=" border="0" width="43" height="58" />

if you recall conrail was owned by the goverment because  the railroad was broke and when the goverments deep pocket taxpayers upgraded it and made it profitable then they sold it. i never saw conrail as a icon they are like amtrak just hanging in there.


Wabash:

What is your take on Amtrak? Should the goverment still subsidy the poor railroad?

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Posted by wabash1 on Monday, December 3, 2007 11:26 AM
 chefjavier wrote:
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:
 wabash1 wrote:
 chefjavier wrote:

 ValleyX wrote:
The question is, if Norfolk Southern had been given a different name, how would things be different today?  What's Conrail standing for Consolidated Rail got to do with it? 

We were talking about managment styles.

Are you trying to suggest that if the name was differant the company would be differant? knowing the same people baught the railroad. and one last thing do you even know what norfolk southern is? ( the real company)

Keep in mind tha Conrail stand for Consolidated Railroads. It took six  flags to become an icon in the railroad industry plus established themselves away from the pack. Now, you sports analogy is way out of content. What scramble eggs you are talking about Red Sox and New England. If you are comparing teams not sports. SoapBox <img src=" border="0" width="43" height="58" />

if you recall conrail was owned by the goverment because  the railroad was broke and when the goverments deep pocket taxpayers upgraded it and made it profitable then they sold it. i never saw conrail as a icon they are like amtrak just hanging in there.


Wabash:

What is your take on Amtrak? Should the goverment still subsidy the poor railroad?

your answer is not easy because if they keep throwing money at them then it helps me. But at the same time i dont like making others rich off my tax dollars. I wont never get a big piece of the pie anyways.

Now how about you answer the question i asked you. do you really know what norfolk southern is?

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Posted by scottychaos on Monday, December 3, 2007 11:36 AM

man..this has to be about the lamest and most pointless thread ever!

what a waste of electrons..

(yes I know..someone will come up with the brilliant and oh-so-original retort of "well if you dont like it dont read it"..dont worry, I wont!)  ;)

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Posted by Murphy Siding on Monday, December 3, 2007 12:44 PM
 scottychaos wrote:

man..this has to be about the lamest and most pointless thread ever!

Scot 

  I was kind of thinking of it as a sort of Sienfeld type thread-about nothing.  What would have happened, if Norfolk & Western, and Southern had decided not to merge, but moved to Sweden instead?Tongue [:P]

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Posted by CopCarSS on Monday, December 3, 2007 12:49 PM

 Murphy Siding wrote:
I was kind of thinking of it as a sort of Sienfeld type thread-about nothing.  What would have happened, if Norfolk & Western, and Southern had decided not to merge, but moved to Sweden instead?Tongue [:P]

Southern would've had to repaint all their boxcars to say "Southern Serves the North (Pole)." Wink [;)]

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Posted by tree68 on Monday, December 3, 2007 2:07 PM

 jfallon wrote:
What if CSX had chosen a suggested name, First American Rail Transportation Services? Would their motto have been "like the Wind"?

They could change all the horns over to the old single chimes, as were used on F's.  If you've heard one, you'll understand....

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