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[quote user="MichaelSol"] <p>Well, the first two surveys, after the Northern Securities decision was handed down in 1901, went only to Butte. That was the entire focus.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>So Butte was sort of a point of reference between the plains division and the Pacific Coast division?</p><p>By the way, when was the Cadette Pass line first proposed for the Milwaukee? Was it after the PCE was completed?</p><p>[quote]</p><p>By 1905, I think they understood that electrification was so advantageous that route was almost secondary -- that comparisons with other roads from a traditional route -- as opposed to technological -- perspective were bound to underestimate the technological advantage that Milwaukee had until June 16, 1974.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Once electrification proved it's worth, was any thought given to "short cutting" parts of the line e.g. eliminating some of the reverse curves/loop tracks on Pipestone Pass and/or St. Paul Pass with shorter but steeper grades? Would there have been that much difference (on how it affected the tracks and rolling stock) between a 1.7/2.0% grade and say a 3% or 4% grade with the 3k electrification? </p><p>I take it that the longer St. Paul Pass tunnel proposal lost some of it's urgency once electrification established it's superiority over traditional steam, but did that necessarily negate the desire to reduce overall mileage of the PCE (which the longer, lower St. Paul Pass tunnel and realignment projected would have accomplised)?</p><p>[quote]</p><p>The Milwaukee did purchase a one-half interest in the BA&P (from James J. Hill) and did, in fact, use the BA&P rails from Butte to Finlen. They built their own line through Silver Bow canyon in 1914 when the impending 3,000 vDC electrification made continued operation under the BA&P 2,400 vDC catenary infeasible.</p><p>[/quote]</p><p>Were the two systems totally incompatable then, or could the 2.4k BA&P locos also utilize the Milwaukee 3k wires on that portion from Butte to Finlen?</p>
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