Widenose cabs

[jeffhergert]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

was the cab standard or widenose?

as for the SD50, did they even make those as cowls? weird. oh well. i prefer hood units

The Clinton accident involved a wide nose.
Jeff

[Lord Atmo]

i see. well, hood units looks nicer IMO

[nanaimo73]

CN's cowls were 20 HR 616 from Bombardier, and then 60 SD50F and 64 SD60F from GMD. This was followed by 55 C40-8M, and 26 more acquired by BC Rail. CP Rail bought 25 SD40-2F.

[Gluefinger]

Many C40-8s, HR616s (had to throw that in!), SD50s, SD60s, and GP/SD40-2s were built as cowl units for CN (and CP had their SD40-2Fs)

[Lord Atmo]

was the cab standard or widenose?

as for the SD50, did they even make those as cowls? weird. oh well. i prefer hood units

[jeffhergert]

There was a rear end collision at Clinton, Iowa a few years back where the engineer and conductor were killed. A IMRL crew on a UP haulage train ran into the back of a BN local job at about 17mph. The rear car, a tank car, went up crushing part of the nose and crew compartment. It was said that an ice bucket (for drinking water) along the back wall hadn't been touched.
If I remember right, the tank cars was empty. I've been told that if the car had been loaded, it would probably not have rode up into the nose.
Jeff

[traisessive1]

One of you said that wide nose cabs would never be used in yard switching.

CN has GP38-2W's that they use for yard switching all of the time. The yard where I was when I grew up even had an CN SD50 for their yard engine one day ... wide cab ... full cowled body [:D]

[Lord Atmo]

whoa. the widenose wasnt even damaged. not even the front handrail. how did that work?

[Anonymous]

the ACE cab is just a new style. I made the nose higher in the middle without making for less visability. I dont need to bend over to get in them either!

[csxengineer98]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Lord Atmo

i see. i figured there had to be some reason the noses became wider. only for electronics and the extra protection posts?

i havent heard of any accident where the cab was crushed in. since the most common accidents seem to be crossing incidents. and in those cases, i'm pretty sure the road vehicle gets smashed or sometimes pushed along the track. like that Ambet Scott incident where she was dragged by the train and made that 911 call while being dragged.

check out this crash..and a cab was crushed..well sorta...

http://www.csx-sucks.com/pictures/?al_head_on.jpg
csx engineer

[Lord Atmo]

i see. i figured there had to be some reason the noses became wider. only for electronics and the extra protection posts?

i havent heard of any accident where the cab was crushed in. since the most common accidents seem to be crossing incidents. and in those cases, i'm pretty sure the road vehicle gets smashed or sometimes pushed along the track. like that Ambet Scott incident where she was dragged by the train and made that 911 call while being dragged.

[coborn35]

I belive its more electrical stuff.

[Lord Atmo]

yeah i figured there had to be some important reason that the cabs were changed. is there any reason why the SD70M-2s and the SD70ACE have different styled noses? are there more posts in them or something?

[Grumpy Hogger]

The widenose cabs avery nice but the only beef I haave with them is that when any switching is required or if the crewman must leave the cab and get off you lose sight of the person even with mirrors which are angled towards the nose for this purpose. the construction of the units are better than the older units account of the posts and steel reinenforements in the nose and the visibility is also much better. Also your right the CP chairs are the BEST .

[Anonymous]

They just need CP chairs... those babies are nice.. go all the way back ;-)