A rare find for me.

[Anonymous]

I saw railfaning yesterday a boxcar that was very interesting. It was blue and white. On the side it said PAM AM. Can anyone tell me more about this box car or the company who owns it?

[coborn35]

QUOTE: Originally posted by beegle55

I think you all might just be a bunch of idiots with WAY too much spare time. But good luck with all your dumb*** that you all do. Oh yea, I thought this was about something important, I guess not? Oh well!

So why are you on the forums again?
Settle down man.

[nssr9169]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

[:(!] O.K. go to http://www.hoovers.com/guilford-transportation/--ID__57540--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml Guilford Transportation Owns both Guilford Railroad and PAN AM but that is not the important thing. A freight railroad most of the time doesn’t own all the cars they pull. Sometimes they (the costmers who are haveing there freight moved) rent from railcar rental company’s or they can rent from the railroad. Some company’s own there own railroad cars so asking why a railroad would put the PAN AM logo on there car is a stupid question because it is not there car it is PAN AM’s car. After all if your parent company owns a railroad do you think they are going to rent a rail car or acquire one? If you go to Guilford’s website and look at there newsletter GuilfordXpress they mention PAN AM a lot since they are owned by the same people. So since Guilford Transportation owns the two companies if PAN AM needs something transported by land instead of contracting it out to another company they use Guilford.

As you can see from the pic below it is common for corporations to put there name/logo on there cars.

So who is the uneducated idiot?

Well Duh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
of course they would use gillford for transport. But the reporting marks on the cars are gillford right? So that shows their ownership not pam Am

[beegle55]

I think you all might just be a bunch of idiots with WAY too much spare time. But good luck with all your dumb*** that you all do. Oh yea, I thought this was about something important, I guess not? Oh well!

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

Ya I always wondered why compneys put there names on the side on boxcars...
Duh[:(!]

I hate be one of those guys that get caught up on spelling, but for the love of God COMPANY or COMPANIES

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

Well if it is there boxcar PAN AM they would paint on there logo just like OMYA (pic of tank car I put up) painted there name/logo on there cars or ADM puts there

But the OMYA car is not owned by OMYA - it's owned by Union Tank note the UTLX.

Proably long term lease to OMYA.

What are the marks on the PanAm cars?

[Ham549]

Well I thought Pan Am owned the boxcars and was using Guilford (for obvious reasons) to ship the airliners freight. But I was wrong. This link should clear stuff up.

http://www.seacoastonline.com/2005news/04012005/biz_nati/73060.htm

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

I probley could find 200 more but it would be a waste of my timeand bandwith. but I will list a few more.

PCS Phosphate Company, Inc.
ADM
GE
Solvay Minerals Inc.
Sid Richardson Carbon Company
A. E. Staley Manufacturing Company
Shintech, Inc.
Phillips Petroleum Company
Equistar Chemicals, LP
Aristech Chemical Corporation
Blue Circle Inc.
Columbian Chemical Company
Chevron Chemical Company
The Canadian Wheat Board
Dow Chemical Canada, Inc.
Solvay Polymers Inc.
Nova Chemicals, Ltd.
Tropicana Products Inc.
Procor Limited

I think you misunderstood me. What I mean is, find several more situations such as the Guilford/Pan Am deal, whereas a company has bought another, non-rail-related company, and has decided to use the other company's logo on their rolling stock.

[Ham549]

I probley could find 200 more but it would be a waste of my timeand bandwith. but I will list a few more.

PCS Phosphate Company, Inc.
ADM
GE
Solvay Minerals Inc.
Sid Richardson Carbon Company
A. E. Staley Manufacturing Company
Shintech, Inc.
Phillips Petroleum Company
Equistar Chemicals, LP
Aristech Chemical Corporation
Blue Circle Inc.
Columbian Chemical Company
Chevron Chemical Company
The Canadian Wheat Board
Dow Chemical Canada, Inc.
Solvay Polymers Inc.
Nova Chemicals, Ltd.
Tropicana Products Inc.
Procor Limited

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by coborn35

...but your remark was smart-a** and not warranted.

Agreed, as your post was not smart-aelic, and did not warrant such a response.

[Anonymous]

QUOTE: Originally posted by Ham549

So it is very common for compneys to put there logos on there rollingstock.

You are once again wrong. That is two companies out of over a thousand. Find about two hundred more examples, and then we'll talk.


Matt

[Ham549]

Well if it is there boxcar PAN AM they would paint on there logo just like OMYA (pic of tank car I put up) painted there name/logo on there cars or ADM puts there logo on there cars. So it is very common for compneys to put there logos on there rollingstock. The other less likely but possible reson is I heard the owner(s) of Guilford Transportation is a avation buff so maby he is trying to boost sails by advretiseing PAN AM but that is highely unliky I think it is the reson above (or maby a little of both).

Now this is a rare find a locomotive running down a street with no tracks!

[coborn35]

And alos, it was not a "few" special cars, it has been applied to over 100 boxcars.

[coborn35]

Ok, Ham, Ill admit I reacted a little fast, but your remark was smart-*** and not warranted.

What is the point of putting the name on the boxcars? Why would you waste all that paint? When Pan-Am needs some parts, get a normal Guilford boxcar to do it, but when not needed ship it around the system. painting it in Pan-Am would defeat the purpose, because it would undoubtly be shipped around the system, thus defeating the purpose. unless you wanted to keep the boxcar instorage, which would be a waste of a boxcar.

[Ham549]

[:(!] O.K. go to http://www.hoovers.com/guilford-transportation/--ID__57540--/free-co-factsheet.xhtml Guilford Transportation Owns both Guilford Railroad and PAN AM but that is not the important thing. A freight railroad most of the time doesn’t own all the cars they pull. Sometimes they (the costmers who are haveing there freight moved) rent from railcar rental company’s or they can rent from the railroad. Some company’s own there own railroad cars so asking why a railroad would put the PAN AM logo on there car is a stupid question because it is not there car it is PAN AM’s car. After all if your parent company owns a railroad do you think they are going to rent a rail car or acquire one? If you go to Guilford’s website and look at there newsletter GuilfordXpress they mention PAN AM a lot since they are owned by the same people. So since Guilford Transportation owns the two companies if PAN AM needs something transported by land instead of contracting it out to another company they use Guilford.

As you can see from the pic below it is common for corporations to put there name/logo on there cars.

So who is the uneducated idiot?