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Posted by howmus on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 11:04 AM

BroadwayLion

LION'S BACK

 

 

Bad, bad, BAD!!!  Lion!  (Loved it!)

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Posted by York1 on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 10:04 AM

Good morning, diners.  Bacon, eggs, and black coffee, Brunhilda.

Another day to work on taxes.  I should finish today and get the work submitted.  Taxes are easier for me now that I'm retired -- pretty straight-forward stuff.  It wasn't always that way.

We have another day of thawing before winter returns with snow flurries tomorrow.

Even though one of my daughters has a Tesla, I don't see us getting an electric car.  She commutes in Dallas -- it's perfect for commuting.  Out here on the plains, we drive too far for even basic necessities.  I have a feeling the batteries will not be progressing fast enough for us to rely on them at our advanced age for the distances we travel out here.

Hopefully I will be able to get back to some layout work later today.  I've had layout withdrawal the past several days.

I hope everyone has a good hump day.

 

 

 

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 9:38 AM

LION'S BACK

 

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

Here there be cats.                                LIONS with CAMERAS

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 7:59 AM

The World Is A Beautiful Place

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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Chloe, I will have a bowl of Rasin Bran and a glass of milk this morning.

It is a perfect day outside, I sure hope there are a couple more coming up.

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York1
Isn't it amazing how ornate the old buildings were?  Today's modern buildings are so bland and utilitarian by comparison

This is absolutely true. I love the look of old downtown buildings all across the country.

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Please let me know how this works out. I hope all the problems are resolved. If so, I will probably be back too.

howmus
At the present time, I would have to agree with you.  As I have mentioned before, if I actually do get out to see you sometime, I would have to plan my stops to recharge, and most of the trip would have to be on the Canadian side. 

Our next car will be electric. 

For vacations we will rent a larger car. I can also rent a truck anytime I will need one of those.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 6:08 AM

Good morning Diners.  A large coffee with a shot of rum please,  Chloe.  It wil not help the pains in my arm, shoulder and back,  but I'll enjoy the drink.  Whistling

Weathering rolling stock.   I have done some weathering on a small amount of parcels carriages etc.  and am pleased.   

 

Just received a request from a friend   for clothing and blankets etc.  to send to the earthquake survivors in Turkey/Syria.  Both Dawn and I are in the process to clear out old clothes,  so we shall donate them.

 

Expecting arrival of some railway carriages  for the layout.   Hopefully they will arrive today (or tomorrow).

 

Thoughts & Peace to All who Require.

 

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Posted by Water Level Route on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 5:34 AM

Good Morning Diners.  Chloe, coffee STAT.  

Just been sitting in my booth listening to the conversation.  Not much new to say from my end.

hon30critter
I guess that's why I am so reluctant to weather my locomotives. To heck with reality!

I kind of feel the same way Dave.  I like the weathered look, but why ruin a pristine locomotive or car?  I tried my hand at weathering once in my youth.  Totally flubbed it up, including on a car that had a lot of sentimental value to me.  I used it as it wasn't going on the layout again and I didn't have other "spare" cars to test on.  Probably part of the reason I'm reluctant to try again.

Not one of a kind (three of a kind?), but certainly unique, and neat looking.

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Posted by hon30critter on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 3:53 AM

Hi Bear,

Interesting locomotives! I love the restored versions. There is nothing like a fresh, shiny paint job to brighten the spirits!

I guess that's why I am so reluctant to weather my locomotives. To heck with reality!

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by "JaBear" on Wednesday, February 8, 2023 3:46 AM
Gidday Chloe, could I have a large cool lemonade, please. It would go down a treat.
 
The first New Zealand mainline diesel electric locomotives were the ten 1500 hp English Electric NZR Df class, built in 1954. The “Carnation Red” paintwork is getting bit drab but then this 1972 photo is only 3 years prior to the Df class withdrawal from service.
 
E19 by Chris Bradley, on Flickr 
 
How the “Carnation Red” would have looked when new, restored NZR Da1431…
 
 
…and restored English Electric Di 1102.
 
 
… and three restored English Electric NZR Dg class.
 
 Reunited by mikeandersonnz, on Flickr
 
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 7:54 PM

BATMAN
I think the Tesla will be ideal in urban areas, not so much in remote parts of the country.

At the present time, I would have to agree with you.  As I have mentioned before, if I actually do get out to see you sometime, I would have to plan my stops to recharge, and most of the trip would have to be on the Canadian side.  If I do buy another (getting to age where I may just drive a lot less and stay close to home) I would definately buy the larger battery pack.  Well worth the extra money!

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 7:31 PM

howmus
I see the article mentioned the reduced power/range in very cold weather.  That is true....  One thing that computer upgrades have helped with is more pre warming of the battery which allows better range and also helps with regenerative braking early while on the road.  Electric loses more range in very cold weather than gas or diesel, but not as big a difference when compared with other fuels than a lot of detractors would have you believe.

I think the Tesla will be ideal in urban areas, not so much in remote parts of the country. I have/had several family and friends in the RCMP, I use to go spend a few days every year with my cousin for a break. He was posted in some really remote areas and we would patrol hundreds of km on gravel and dirt roads in suburbans or pick-up trucks. Once we had a 20-mile high-speed pursuit of a carload of first nations kids reaching speeds of 25mph on the snowy dirt road. My cousin finally just went up behind them in the suburban and pushed them into a snow bank. Got out and gave them H-E-double hockey sticks for being idiots and we left. He was also posted to a few detachments through the Selkirk and Rocky Mountains. We would be in a Crown Victoria usually chasing speeders on the Trans Canada Hwy. Those Crown Victorias moved out pretty well. A Tesla would have shortened the time to catch up to the offenders by quite a bit.

I wonder if they will make a Tesla Police Special? Maybe they can fit an extra battery in somewhere to increase the range. I went with my cousin to some very remote first nations villages on the coast from where he was posted inland, it was several hours each way and we would have several jerry cans of fuel in the back of the truck for the trip. Sure had a lot of fun riding along with him, met some real characters.

Police officer, wife launching complaint for 'driving while Black' stop by  RCMP - Saanich News

Brent

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 6:38 PM

BATMAN
Model "Y".

Aha!  Yep!  I should have known that...  My Podiatrist has a Model Y.  He checks out my feet and we talk Cars...!  LOL  The Y looks just a bit bulkier in the body, particularly the front.  I think the bars on the front blocked my seeing that.

I see the article mentioned the reduced power/range in very cold weather.  That is true....  One thing that computer upgrades have helped with is more pre warming of the battery which allows better range and also helps with regenerative braking early while on the road.  Electric loses more range in very cold weather than gas or diesel, but not as big a difference when compared with other fuels than a lot of detractors would have you believe.

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 6:22 PM

[quote user="howmus"]

[quote user="BATMAN"]

This ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.

 
BATMAN
 
Hmmm....  Is that a Model 3 or an S?  Looks like a Model 3 by the photo......

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Here is a link to a story about the changes.

Model "Y".

https://vancouverisland.ctvnews.ca/canada-s-first-electric-rcmp-cruiser-arrives-on-vancouver-island-1.6263537?fbclid=IwAR04kr_K1HkP5pWnYUHNtKjf6L3CnFF8aUF6y6sxgc8wIk6rGNFcXu7psJ4

 The model"Y"

https://www.tesla.com/en_ca/modely 

VROOOOOM!!!!

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Posted by BigDaddy on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 5:52 PM

I'm back in the fold, so to speak regarding Trains.com.  Maybe in December, as a former subscriber, I got an offer to renew at $29.99.  Unfortunately it got shuffled to the bottom of a pile of papers and when I saw it again it expired.

I took a chance and emailed customer service to see if they would still honor the offer.  Not counting the immediate computer generated response, 3 days later someone emailed me, saying they would send me a link to pay if I could send an image of the original offer.

I sent the image; three times I sent the image and finally got the link. It only took 3 weeks.   Angry

Sorry I missed you today Steve, I was waiting for the email. 

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 5:33 PM

[quote user="BATMAN"]

This ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.

 [quote user="BATMAN"]
 
Hmmm....  Is that a Model 3 or an S?  Looks like a Model 3 by the photo......

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 5:33 PM

York1
Ed, I found that photo online and didn't know anything about it.  Was it real?

This early Trains thread has speculation and misinformation all over it:

https://cs.trains.com/trn/f/111/t/79997.aspx

 

As I boiled down the information from other sites the engine was painted at Coast Engine and Equipment in Tacoma, WA, under contract from UP and got the job done incorrectly. Seems like UP repainted it a year or two later into the standard UP scheme. It is an ex-SP engine.

UP does have some yard engines and boosters in primer gray but this isn't one of them.

For a whole NEW look for UP here's what they've unveiled:

https://www.up.com/aboutup/community/inside_track/new-locomotive-look-it-220725.htm

BATMAN
This ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.

Union Pacific is in the EV trend, too.

https://www.up.com/aboutup/community/inside_track/electric-vehicle-fleet-it-221004.htm

 UP_Lectric by Edmund, on Flickr

Cheers, Ed

 

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Posted by BATMAN on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 5:01 PM

This ones for Ray. Fastest pursuit vehicle the horsemen has ever had. First of many to come.

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 4:13 PM

gmpullman
gmpullman wrote the following post an hour ago: York1 I don't know if this is a one-time paint job or not.  I thought it was unusual for a railroad where every locomotive is yellow. That UP engine sure had the interwebs in a flurry back in 2006 when it first appeared, some even still insisting the photos of it were manipulated in Photoshop and the unit really never existed.

 

Ed, I found that photo online and didn't know anything about it.  Was it real?

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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 3:05 PM

York1
I don't know if this is a one-time paint job or not.  I thought it was unusual for a railroad where every locomotive is yellow.

That UP engine sure had the interwebs in a flurry back in 2006 when it first appeared, some even still insisting the photos of it were manipulated in Photoshop and the unit really never existed.


 

 Motor City Zephyr by Edmund, on Flickr

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 12:14 PM

I finished what I was doing to the house today, and took a shower.

When I went to the kitchen I found my wife had just made cinnamon rolls!

What a great surprise.

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Posted by Steven Otte on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 8:48 AM

Good morning, all. In about 10 minutes (9 a.m. Central, for those of you reading this later) we'll be in the workshop, doling out structure kits to the staff for next year's project layout, and if I can convince the others, maybe laying some cork roadbed. Those of you who are subscribers to Trains.com can watch on the webcam at https://www.trains.com/vid/webcam/workshop-webcam/. (Until we're there, you'll see recorded video of me fiddling with things yesterday.) See you there!

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Posted by York1 on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 8:25 AM

Good morning, diners.  The usual please.

We had another day of temps in the 40s, so the snow is almost all gone.  There is still some ice in the street, but it's going fast.

Another friend died -- another funeral Friday.  I'm getting leery about reading the obituaries in the paper.  I hope I don't see mine soon.

 

SeeYou190

 

Isn't it amazing how ornate the old buildings were?  Today's modern buildings are so bland and utilitarian by comparison.  Even in my little old town, several old buildings downtown are works of art, while newer buildings are forgettable.

 

Not much else going on today.  I've been working on taxes again.  It's kind of depressing thinking how much time, effort, and money goes into our tax system, when it could be so simple.  I guess they are aiming to make it simple again:  1.   How much money do you make?  2.  Send it to us.

Layout progress is slow.  Isn't it strange how each of us looks at a layout job that we estimate will take two hours, and it take two days!  I guess that's why it's such a good hobby.  We love the time spent working on it.

 

I don't know if this is a one-time paint job or not.  I thought it was unusual for a railroad where every locomotive is yellow.

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Posted by NorthBrit on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 8:19 AM

Good afternoon Diners.  A large coffee please, Zoe.

A busy morning with looking after Dawn.  Now to collect oldest grandson from school.

 

Some  British Locomotive Liveries  from 2018 to 2021

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wBKtuZUgUt4&ab_channel=LinesideSouthEast

 

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 8:03 AM

The World Is A Beautiful Place

-Photograph by Kevin Parson

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Good morning! 

Absolutely nothing new to report here.

With all the new insulation and insulated inpact windows, my house does not change temperature with the outside air very much at all. On the very cold days, and only cool days this year, the house has stayed in the 65-70 degree range on the inside without running the heater.

Stepping outside is a suprise now.

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Bear: Thank you for all the information on New Zealand Railways. A lot of your pictures end up in my "ideas" file. I really love the styling on a lot of the equipment.

-Kevin

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Posted by "JaBear" on Tuesday, February 7, 2023 3:00 AM
Gidday Chloe, could I please have a large banana milkshake to quietly sup on. I got in and stacked 8 cubes of firewood today and am a little (?) wacked.

SeeYou190
Bear: Have there ever been HO scale models made of those Rail Cars?

Kevin, as the rail gauge in New Zealand is 3 foot 6 inches, the scale to model the NZR was, and still is the predominant one, when I got interested in the hobby, was Sn3.5, (3/16” using HO track) too large for me, though had NZ120, or TTn3.5, (TT scale using N scale track) been around, I think I would have looked at seriously at going down that track.
 
However, the Brazilian firm Frateschi does make, in HO scale, in various NZR liveries, a DA, Dc, and Dx class locomotives. The purists tend to sneer at those who use those locomotives, but I have seen on several occasions a portable layout that very nicely depicts local dairy production from the farm to the consumer via the dairy factory , and the various “milk trains” involved.
But there is not an HO scale “Fiatrail car.”
 
Speaking of NZR railcars, tonights offering is the NZR home grown “Standard Railcars” built 1938, lasting in service until 1972, these 50 seaters, had each worh out at least 3 sets of diesel engines! I’ve only seen a couple of paintings and colourized photos, but I think the original livery of ivory/silver with the green stripe was quite attractive, but the motorsts of the time complained bitterly that the railars were to hard to see at level crossings, so they were quickly repainted red. It would to nice to think that one of the preserved Standards would be painted in the original scheme.
 
Standard by Bear, on Flickr Courtsey of Tranzpress.
 WP25 by Chris Bradley, on Flickr
Thoughts and Best Wishes to All that need them. Kia Kaha.
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Posted by howmus on Monday, February 6, 2023 6:12 PM

Hey, hey, hey....!

Just found out something rather cool!  I don't have cable TV as I generally really hate watching 10 minutes of commercials to see 3 minutes of program.  So...  I didn't see the Grammy Awards yesterday.  If I had known I would have found a way to tune in, I think!  A gent I went to College (Eastman School of Music) with got one yesterday!

Best Historical Album: Bob Ludwig ’66E, ’01E (MM), mastering engineer, Yankee Hotel Foxtrot (20th Anniversary Super Deluxe Edition)

Bob was two years ahead of me there, but in a college that small everyone knew everyone.  Sometime I may tell you about a record at Eastman I still hold with a guy named Mitch Miller.... Wink

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Posted by NorthBrit on Monday, February 6, 2023 11:16 AM

Good evening Diners.  A glass of Pinot Grigio please,  Janie.

York1John.   Always nice to have a streetcar on a layout.   Gives a little more atmosphere.   You must show us a picture.

Mine is at the rear of Sovereign Street.

 IMG_2495 by David Harrison, on Flickr

 

It had to happen!   Younger granddaughter has taken to play soccer  with a local team,  whilst our older granddaughter plays basketball  Newcastle Eagles Arena.   Mindst you, when they visit us they are in the train room. Yeah

 

Dinner  Corned Beef Hash  with Raspberry & Strawberry Trifle to follow.

 

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, February 6, 2023 11:03 AM

 

One-of-a-kind paint scheme:

 221113_1_juniata by lmyers83, on Flickr

Oh, that will just rub out...

For anyone with crooked handrails on their models:

 221113_3_juniata by lmyers83, on Flickr

Prototype for everything!

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, February 6, 2023 10:55 AM

The Route of the Broadway Lion The Largest Subway Layout in North Dakota.

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Posted by York1 on Monday, February 6, 2023 9:29 AM

Good morning, everyone.  Chloe, I'll have bacon and eggs.  And coffee.

I actually slept late today.  Daisy the Dachshund decided she needed to go outside at 2:30 a.m., and I couldn't fall asleep after that unscheduled walk out in freezing temps.  I read for a while, and I woke up at 8:00 a.m.  Unheard of for me.

 

up831
John (york1):  In last month's diner you posted a picture of a teepee motel and said it might be a good model.  Funny yo9u should mention it.  Here is a picture from this last year's Trainfest.

 

Jim, that's amazing.  When I first found the photo, I looked online for some model railroad photos of it, but didn't see any.  I don't have room for it on my layout, but I sure remember places like that from growing up in the 1950s.  I remember going to a souvenir store called Jerome's Teepee, which was in a building something like that only bigger.  Neat photo -- thanks!

 

I bought an N streetcar which is DC.  I'm going to put in a streetcar track completely separate from my DCC system, so I'm going to buy a cheap used DC power control.  There is a train show coming up in two weeks about 50 miles from me, so I hope I will find a good cheap one at a vendor's table.

Have a great Monday, everyone.

 

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Posted by up831 on Monday, February 6, 2023 9:11 AM

Hi Everyone,

Brunhilda, coffee with cream, please.

John (york1):  In last month's diner you posted a picture of a teepee motel and said it might be a good model.  Funny yo9u should mention it.  Here is a picture from this last year's Trainfest.

 N scale teepee motel by Jim S, on Flickr

Earlier, I said I got the brake lines  in on a model.

 First time brake line by Jim S, on Flickr

The one line is too long and the bend too low.  If it comes unglued when I try to paint it, then I'll fix it.  Otherwise I got it to stick in place, I ain't touchin' it! 

Less is more,...more or less!

Jim (with a nod to Mies Van Der Rohe)

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