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Posted by gmpullman on Tuesday, October 18, 2022 12:19 AM

I sure appreciate you keeping an eye out for me, Kevin. I hate to come across as a depressed-center snob but — I was really holding out for a Railworks model Cool

 PRR_FW1-FD2 WooSung by Edmund, on Flickr

Here's another example of the conversation I was having above where in this instance a car like this gets overlooked but something like the Schnabel transformer car gets main-stream production.

Thanks again, Ed

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, October 17, 2022 11:55 PM

gmpullman
I'd like to add an FD2 Queen Mary flat car to my list. On the rare occasions a brass one shows up it can run into the $500 range.

Ed: BrassTrains Dot Com has two on sale right now for $360.00 each!

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Posted by ATLANTIC CENTRAL on Monday, October 17, 2022 7:13 PM

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The 2-8-8-4, is that the SP engine Sheldon is interested in? 

No.

    

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Posted by mvlandsw on Monday, October 17, 2022 6:34 PM

   I could use 40 or so of the original Detroit Edison aluminum coal gondolas.

In the 90's and 2000's they were used for trash service.

After receiving the Arrowhead covered hoppers I don't know if I can bring myself to order anything assembled by indifferent Chinese workers again, so kits may be better if the price is reasonable, which it probably wouldn't be.

A cow and calf switcher set would be nice and also the Lima switchers.

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Posted by Engi1487 on Monday, October 17, 2022 6:04 PM

selector

I think it's about time BLI built an HO 2-8-8-4 (Sheldon is rolling his eyes, and probably more than a few others). I'm sorely tempted by the latest C&O 2-8-2 offering, but that price!! (Yes, Brent, I'm still holding my backside, three weeks later.)

But, I'd like to see more CPR steamers, say a 2-8-2 or a 4-6-2.  Of course, if Rapido ever announces that they will go ahead with the Empress 4-6-4, I'll be very happy.

 



The 2-8-8-4, is that the SP engine Sheldon is interested in? Rapido did say the icons of steam project was a bit too ambitious at the start, was delayed by a few years but I am glad its gaining traction, despite the time needed for development. Should the standard hudson come out, do you think instead of going in the original order they intended, they would do the better, more well known steam engines first, like the CN Northern, and Shelkirk?

Its was going to be:

2019- Standard CPR Hudson & CN 2-8-0

2020 - CPR light 4-6-2 Pacific & CN UF1 Mountain

2021 - CPR Heavy Pacific  4-6-2 & CN 4-6-3 Pacific

2022 - CP Selkirk & CN Northern

2023 - CPR streamlined F2a Jubilee

I get they wanted to release smaller lesser known locomotives, as the market is lacking in those before they release the larger engines, but since the 10 wheeler CN didnt not sell enough proders to be put into production with the CN D10, maybe they will consider nor doing them in the original order, and do the bigger ones?



As for my answer. I hope they or someone doesthe standard looking CPR Jubilee and CPR 2-8-2. I would like to see BLI do the B&A 4-6-6T, as more smaller steam is needed.

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Posted by crossthedog on Monday, October 17, 2022 5:59 PM

The locomotive that I would certainly buy but has not yet been manufactured in nonbrass HO is the Aloc RS-1 in the shortly-after-delivered Spokane, Portland & Seattle "oxide-red top" scheme. This is what Bowser's RS-3 looks like with the same livery:

I believe I once saw that Atlas made one in N scale, but that may have been a hallucination.

If such a model became available, I would be happiest if it came painted and decaled with the holes for the grabs already drilled. I'll put the trucks and couplers on and apply the grabs and railings. If there's an engineer sitting inside waving, that would be even better.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Monday, October 17, 2022 4:12 PM

Hello All,

chutton01
...what scale were you thinking of?

It is indeed HO...

I am aware that the "B-unit" and/or "Slug" would require some "kit-bashing"- -modification.

From the link you provided- -at just north of $130.00- -it is far from reasonable for just a single shell; considering my budget.

I have had great success with the custom shell manufacturer I have previously worked with, and the cost is approximately half of what the link you provided is asking.

Again, thank you for your kind suggestion.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by chutton01 on Monday, October 17, 2022 3:54 PM

jjdamnit
chutton01
jjdamnit, A GP20D B (calf/slug) unit? There were only 40 manufacturered (according to Wiki) and no B units. Clearly you are shooting for a top-teir foobie, and for that I salute you.

Thank you for your words of encouragement!

I've contacted a custom shell manufacturer about the possibility of making a run of these prototypical limited productions "oddities."

Well, what scale were you thinking of? Because in HO scale it may be pretty easy if not particular cheap, to "ahem" kitbash (you may have already seen this and discarded it).

As for that ACF PD3500, as well as the Evans clam-shell covered gondola and the rail-whale tank cars and PS roll-up all door boxcars and lots of other neat stuff the prototype railroads were trying in the 1950s and espeically the 1960s to varied success, the model makers of the time (AHM, Tyco, Lifelike, Bachmann and so on) cranked them out because they were different, somewhat neat, and could be fun (what 7 year old boy didn't want to hide things in that Clam-Shell gondola - I had a P&LE one). Its what I call the "Little Joe Dockside" effect - 4 locomotive protoypes = tens of thousands of models on layouts...

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Posted by jjdamnit on Monday, October 17, 2022 3:14 PM

Hello All,

chutton01
jjdamnit, A GP20D B (calf/slug) unit? There were only 40 manufacturered (according to Wiki) and no B units. Clearly you are shooting for a top-teir foobie, and for that I salute you.

Thank you for your words of encouragement!

I've contacted a custom shell manufacturer about the possibility of making a run of these prototypical limited productions "oddities."

Despite these units not being well received, I am a sucker for consists, B-units, cow & calf sets, and slugs.

On my freelance pike, I run a GP30 A-B-A consist in the Denver & Rio Grande Western livery- -knowing full well that the D&RGW never rostered a GP30-B unit.

Ah, the satisfaction of freelance!

I also have a cow & calf set; TR & TR2, in the Santa Fe livery.

Thank you for your kind words of encouragement.

And, as always...

Hope this helps.

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Posted by wjstix on Monday, October 17, 2022 3:10 PM

With 3-D printing getting better all the time, I would like to see more replacement body shells for steam engines. Not entirely new engines, but shells to fit existing models from BLI, Bachmann, etc.

For example, Great Northern is hard to model in the steam era because their engines mostly used Belpaire fireboxes. However, many of their engines were otherwise fairly generic as to boiler size, drive wheels etc. So it should be possible to make GN body shells that would fit on the chassis of USRA Mikados and Pacifics and make a reasonably accurate model, and maybe a switcher body to fit the Proto 0-6-0.  

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Posted by gmpullman on Monday, October 17, 2022 3:04 PM

chutton01
Ed, while the helium cylinder cars are, I gree, rather neat looking, in regards to "These cars were pretty numerous and were seen on many roads all across the U.S."

In my mind while I was typing that "numerous" (relatively) was some of the cars that a few manufacturers have already produced that are not what would be considered a huge number but certainly more than a handful.

Broadway Limited did the DOT 113 cryogenic tank car. I can not locate the exact numbers but they were certainly fewer than, say, a PRR H21. It still seemed like it was a popular model.

Another example, perhaps, is the ACF PD 3500 of which, as I recall only 220 were made but Rapido produced a fine HO model of this.

 NYC_PD_Flexiflo-2 by Edmund, on Flickr

For modelers at least, the helium car was occasionally seen at different sites around the U.S. including the NASA research center here in the Cleveland area so it was at least carried in some New York Central trains that would be found on my layout. I understand they visited Cape Canaveral pretty often, too.

Another point for modelers is the date-range the cars were in operation roughly 1930 to 1998. Of course there were several variants in the lots over the years but I imagine a manufacturer could produce an "early" model and with slight modifications, a post 1970 "late" (rebuilt) design.

Speaking of "relatively" rare cars, I'd like to add an FD2 Queen Mary flat car to my list. On the rare occasions a brass one shows up it can run into the $500 range.

 PRR_QueenMary by Edmund, on Flickr

Regards, Ed

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Posted by chutton01 on Monday, October 17, 2022 1:53 PM

Put me in the crew that's not really looking for new releases, for my late 2010s Philly area modules (sadly none ready for Trackside Photos yet) pretty much all I could use has been released in one form or another (and I am not above using subtle fooblies, like the old MDC 50ft "City Of Everywhere" tank car model, lettered for GATX & weathered for 40 years of use).  The problem is finding those <ebay listing heading>Rare! Vintage! Pristine!<\elh> models I need to fill in a few gaps (at affordable prices mind you) is seeing "Out of Stock" and "Item Discontinued" and "Check with dealer (who has none left)" all over the place.  Around my small rural community (aka the New York Tri-State metropitan region) decent train shows are rather rare, and normally get combined with doll and toy shows. My main source of good NIB stock for the past few years has been the Amherst W. Springfield show, which I didn't make this year (and judging from the Virtual Railfan live feeds, a whole lot of other people didn't as well. Actually that live feed of the show got me a little concerned for next year - in the four buildings where in previous years  there were many small vendors packed against the walls with plenty of items available to purchase (I did my part in buying), there was...lots of empty floor space.  Yeah Covid Restrictions and major snowstorm but still...Ugh.
What I do want is...parts & decals & other such detail items we'll need when we go full 3D printed locomotives and rolling stock (est. June 2029).

Now, for some chop-busting:
Ed, while the helium cylinder cars are, I gree, rather neat looking, in regards to "These cars were pretty numerous and were seen on many roads all across the U.S." , your own link says (in the Quick Roster of Helium Tank Cars) "Total Cars Built: 241" so I'm going to have to say less PRR H21 Hopper or PFE R-40-23 Reefer numerous, but instead rather rare outside of certain military installations and production plants.

Dave, in terms of seated passengers I cheat shamelessly (and have 
previously admitted such on this forum) and just paint up cheap ~1:100 or so scale figures pruchased via Amazon, and repaint them from their initial blotchy bright primary colors into more subdued and dull-coated figures. Fit nicely into the constricted HO seats seats (no amputations needed usually) and look decent enough even with lit interiors, but then I don't take my passenger car interiors to the next level like several dedicated modelers on the forum. Reasonably good enough is fine with me.

jjdamnit, A GP20D B (calf/slug) unit? There were only 40 manufacturered (according to Wiki) and no B units. Clearly you are shooting for a top-teir foobie, and for that I salute you.

Brother Elias, Clearly you were not a fan of the Red Green show's Handyman Corner, or else you would have covered that Octupus in the Handyman's Secret Weapon - Duct Tape.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 17, 2022 1:47 PM

jjdamnit
I'd get two (2) and convert one to a calf unit (slug).

A calf unit has a prime moverr like a B unit

A slug has no motor, taking its power completwely from the mother unit.

It has traction motors and weight in it to assist with the traction efffort/

 

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Posted by Vintagesteamer on Monday, October 17, 2022 1:37 PM

I will second the DM&IR SD9, SDm and SD18 in HO and a SD9(hi and low nose) in G scale along with USA trains offering their GP9 as a low nose unit.  

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Posted by Water Level Route on Monday, October 17, 2022 1:33 PM

Locomotive: New York Central H10 Mikado in good running affordable plastic (calling BLI).  In several road numbers please.

Freight Car: Set of 6 (or four if it gets them made) numbered differently Sinclair 10,000 gallon tank cars.

Caboose: More of the Atlas Trainman Cupola Cabooses in NYC paint.  I have seven of the eight they made.  I want more.

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Posted by jjdamnit on Monday, October 17, 2022 12:50 PM

Hello All,

EMD GP20D!

I'd get two (2) and convert one to a calf or slug.

Hope this helps.

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, October 17, 2022 12:35 PM

Trainman440
My friend actually recently bought two NPP NKP 4-6-4s, he's trying to get rid of one.

Is he happy with how they run?

I recently bought one (sans the ears), and it seemed like a good runner on the test track.

I have heard a lot of bad things about these models, but mine seems OK.

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Posted by mbinsewi on Monday, October 17, 2022 12:12 PM

I can't think of anything specific.

If I would get going and finish the many "builds" that I have already, my list would be pretty complete.  Laugh

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Monday, October 17, 2022 12:06 PM

JDawg
What would be a freight car that you would like to see made that you, yourself would 100% buy?

A good model of the Helium Car.

JDawg
What would be a locomotive that you would like to see made that you, yourself would 100% buy?

A decent DL-109.

JDawg
What would be a caboose that you would like to see made that you, yourself would 100% buy?

None, sorry. The SGRR has all the cabooses it will ever need.

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Posted by John-NYBW on Monday, October 17, 2022 11:15 AM

I have just about everything on my roster that I want. If there's one thing I might buy if it was available, it would be the NYC E-7s in the post-WWII, pre-1948 light gray paint scheme which matched the 1938 20th Century livery. I've only seen a few pictures of those and haven't seen it offered as a model. If it did come out it would probably cost more than I'd be willing to pay for it. 

I buy mostly RTR rolling stock but since almost none of it comes with KDs, I replace the couplers with #148s. If it doesn't have metal wheels I replace those too. About the only kits I buy are Accurail and I replace both couplers and wheels on those. I also lightly weather my freight cars.

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Posted by dehusman on Monday, October 17, 2022 11:08 AM

All in HO:

34' trussrod boxcar, both right and left opening doors.

PRR class GD hopper bottom gon.

Camelback boiler superstructure to fit on Roundhouse 2-8-0, 4-4-0, 2-6-0 underframes.

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 17, 2022 11:02 AM

Yeah... Real Handy

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Posted by DanRaitz on Monday, October 17, 2022 10:39 AM

A DM&IR phase IV SD9 or SD18

 

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Posted by dti406 on Monday, October 17, 2022 10:38 AM

Lima switcher both the Wabash and NKP had these.

Alco RSD-12 NKP, SP and PRR had these.

Alco C-415 just because.

FGE 50' RBL with the way offset 12' door, the DTI had over a hundred and the WP had them also.

 

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Posted by Pruitt on Monday, October 17, 2022 10:22 AM

Loco - A CNW Class L Pacific in plastic

Loco - A CB&Q Class S2 Pacific in plastic

Freight Car - CB&Q Beet Hoppers

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Posted by Trainman440 on Monday, October 17, 2022 10:02 AM

gmpullman

A New York Central K-3 or K-11 or other class K Pacific. Running close second would be a Nickel Plate Hudson with the elephant ears

My friend actually recently bought two NPP NKP 4-6-4s, he's trying to get rid of one. You can email me if you want to reach out. 

As for me personally, I agree that the NYC K11 should be the next mass produced HO locomotive. Its such a famous hudon, being the only sucessful dual service hudson to my knowledge in the US. Only Bowser and Key has made it in HO, the bowser one leaves a lot to be desired even after super detail kit, and the Key models go for $1.5k. 

All the other engines Im "missing" have been made at cheaper prices and are somewhat more available than the K11, including the NYC H10b by Overland and PFM, B&A A1 by NPP, etc. 

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Posted by DanRaitz on Monday, October 17, 2022 9:47 AM

maxman

Conrail C32-8.

 

#R500 - C32-8 Shell – PPW/A-Line/Arrow Hobby (ppw-aline.com)

uses a Athearn BB UC chassis

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Posted by BroadwayLion on Monday, October 17, 2022 5:05 AM

The NYCT R-9 of course!

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Posted by AntonioFP45 on Monday, October 17, 2022 4:52 AM

Amtrak P30CH, by Athearn!  On the wish list for a good number of early-Amtrak era modelers Cool

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Monday, October 17, 2022 1:14 AM

Hi JJF

I have all of the freight cars, cabooses and locomotives, and most of the passenger cars that I will ever need, so my answer isn't quite what you asked for but here goes:

I would like to see an extensive array of seated passengers for both passenger cars and vehicles that are well done and ready to drop into place without major surgery. I would make the same request for train crews.

I really don't like the current selections of seated passengers. The Chinese figures are hideous, especially the colour of the clothing, and when you order a large assortment, there are actually very few variations in the poses. The Europeans seem to have missed the point. You can buy hundreds of different figures but very few seated people that are sized to drop into a passenger seat or vehicle without the aforementioned surgery. WS makes 130 different sets of figures but none of them are designed as seated passengers.

I will confess that I haven't done a recent search for seated passengers and drivers so my complaining may not be based on the current situation.

Sorry that my answer was a bit off topic.

Cheers!!

Dave

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