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Oops? Brass question
Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 12:41 PM

I did a thing. Actually.  I bought. An LMB NYC H10b long tender version.   Good condition and a decent but normal type price.      It is enroute to me somewhere.   I just realized I might have made an oops.     I never though to ask until now.   What is the max radius can this 2-8-2 take?  

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Posted by ndbprr on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 1:00 PM

Every brass tender I have has two holes in the tender draw bar.  Unless you are running very small radius curves you should be ok

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Posted by wvgca on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 1:47 PM

if it has the center two drivers 'blind' or no flange, it should easily take eighteen inch curves [in HO]

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Posted by Trainman440 on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:18 PM

I expect the minimum will be around 22".

I hope you didn't purchase the one from the seller who also sold the broken LMB Niagara and Key L-4b. That LMB H10 has its nickel plating on the wheels completely worn away, which signifies the engine has been through significant wear, and also that the wheels will need to be polished every once in a while.

Since tarnished brass is an insulator, it'll need to be polished every once in a while to remove the tarnish. Its why wheels are usually nickel plated, and why track is no longer made from brass.

Combined with the host of details that needs upgrading on the LMB H10 and a few dimensional inaccuracies, its is an engine I personally avoid even though Id love to get myself an H10. 

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Posted by ricktrains4824 on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 2:21 PM

If it's a full 2-8-2, in brass, 22" at bare minimum I would think. 

Even then it might look "toy-ish" as that is still sharp for it's size.

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Posted by maxman on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 3:03 PM

NVSRR
What is the max radius can this 2-8-2 take?  

There is no limit.  It can be as large as you want.

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Posted by philo426 on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 5:50 PM

Will it go around 22 inch curves?

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 8:54 PM

You got me on that one maxman. SHould have said minimum radius

 

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Posted by NVSRR on Tuesday, July 12, 2022 9:40 PM

Trainman440.   That was not the one.   I did see that one and those needed far more work than I had in mind.  I study pics closely now since sellers recently have gotten slick with the picks angles to hide damage and not disclose it.  then claim "look at picks" when they are confronted about it.    I look at picks carefully on a big screen to find faults.  saved me a few times from buying damaged. 

 

Biggest mainline curve is 26 and smallest is 22.   It is more of a railroad history excursion sort of thing since I model current modern era. Rounds out th representaion of power nicely for steam days.  So it ont be run much.  Plus I would have to convrt it over to dcc. 

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Posted by DanRaitz on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 9:25 AM

I've got a Sunset/Samhongsa Great Northern 0-8 (2-8-2)* that doesn't like anything below 27",  but seeing as your's is a smaller locomotive you should have no problem with 24" minimum.

 

* the largest 2-8-2's ever built.

 

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Posted by DrW on Wednesday, July 13, 2022 10:46 AM

On the other end of the spectrum, the Division Point Santa Fe 885 class Mikado can handle 18" curves. However, it is a relatively short engine (prototype 57" drivers, engine wheelbase 31.5'; as compared to 63" and 37' for the H10b).

JW

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