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searching for a proto 1000 diesel part

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Posted by davidmurray on Thursday, July 28, 2022 10:54 AM

My order was processed, and hopefully mailed on July 5th,  Received on July 25th.  International postal system is slow.

 

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Posted by davidmurray on Monday, July 4, 2022 8:26 PM

Ordered from Walthers today.  Before Covid I had tried to order from them and they told me my street address was invalid.  I guess they fixed their system, because I haven't moved.

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Posted by Mister Mikado on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:22 PM

beau thanks for that generous info! -rob

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Posted by davidmurray on Monday, July 4, 2022 12:19 PM

Thanks guys.  My locos are life like protos.  Some are proto1000, some are proto2000.  Good to know that the six axel gears are different.

 

Thank you

 

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Posted by Ron High on Monday, July 4, 2022 10:43 AM

I have used the Athearn replacement gears and or geared wheel sets on Proto 1000 RS2s  and F3 units I have also used these on the GP9, GP18, FA1, FA2, FBs Proto 2000 units these are the 40 inch wheels and gears for the four axle Axle clone drives found on the Proto series.I think the 6 axle engines gears are different.

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Posted by richhotrain on Monday, July 4, 2022 7:14 AM

davidmurray

Question for all you proto 1000/2000 users. 

I need several new axels (cracked gear problem).  Do the gp9 and gp18s use forty or forty two inch wheels?

Which Proto geeps do you have?  Proto 1000 or Proto 2000?  Life-Like or Walthers Proto?

The Walther Proto 2000 GP7, GP9 and GP18 locomotives use 40" RP-25 contour blackened-metal wheelsets.

Rich

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Posted by Mister Mikado on Sunday, July 3, 2022 11:13 PM

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Posted by davidmurray on Sunday, July 3, 2022 8:13 PM

Question for all you proto 1000/2000 users.

 

I need several new axels (cracked gear problem).  Do the gp9 and gp18s use forty or forty two inch wheels?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

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Posted by richhotrain on Sunday, July 3, 2022 4:41 PM

Mister Mikado

Hi all, I purchased a new Life Like Proto 1000 FM Erie Built PRR but one of the brake cylinders on the forward end of a truck was lost in transit.  Does anyone have this part? Any color is OK. 

gmpullman

Pretty sure it is the same sideframe as used on the PAs. 

Yes, they are the same.

I had to replace some missing brake cylinders on some Proto 2000 PAs. I couldn't find any until a seller showed up on eBay with some spare parts from a broken Proto 1000 FM Erie-built PA. I bought two trucks and salvaged 8 brake cylinders. They were identical to the Proto 2000 PA brake cylinders.

Before I sold my two pairs of Proto 2000 PA/PB locomotives, I had lost two of the brake cylinders either on my layout or under it. In total, I had lost 4 but found 2.

A word to the wise. When you get the replacements, glue them on. From the factory, they were press fit and fall off with the slightest bit of handling.

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Sunday, July 3, 2022 1:42 PM

Just for the hay of it, side frame castings used by FM were not the same as Alco, but the difference is subtle. I can't blame the manufacturer for reusing the molding, Some units used an entirely differrent truck.                                          "The model’s trucks are a compromise, as they appear to be the same and with the same sideframes as used on the Proto 2000 Alco PA and PB models. While these and the Eries’ GSC trucks share an identical wheelbase and a similar general appearance, they aren’t an exact match. The most obvious difference is a third brake cylinder on each side above the center axle, but the Erie-built trucks were also straighter across the top, without the curved steps of the Alcos’ trucks. Life-Like doubtless accepted this as a cost saving appropriate in a Proto 1000 model, and I expect most of us will find that it doesn’t seriously detract from the locomotive’s overall appearance." If you want to be a purist, replacement side frames are acvailable           9653 -HO Trucks, Diesel Power, FM Erie built, sprung, side frames only - Pkg. 1 Pair (americanscalemodels.com)                                                                                                                                                       "Most units rode on conventional General Steel Castings trucks, which looked similar to those used on the Alco PA but were actually a different design. This drove up the cost as it required new foundry patterns. GE design a welded truck that could be fabricated at the Erie plant, and was fitted to a number of units for UP, KCS, and NYC. However, most customers preferred the cast steel truck, and the engineering cost, jigs and fixtures and necessity for a second inventory meant that the fabricated truck design did not save money"  Here is an example of the GE truck on a HO model and on the KCS                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                        

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, July 3, 2022 3:51 AM

Good to go, Rob!

Enjoy the Fourth. I'm enjoying a fifth, too Whistling

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Posted by Mister Mikado on Sunday, July 3, 2022 2:15 AM

Thank you Ed, you are the man!  I sent you an email. Rob

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Posted by gmpullman on Sunday, July 3, 2022 12:13 AM

Pretty sure it is the same sideframe on the model as used on the PAs. I can send you the whole sideframe if you'd like.

 Proto_PA_sideframe2 by Edmund, on Flickr

 Proto_PA_sideframe by Edmund, on Flickr

My email is in my profile Yes 

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searching for a proto 1000 diesel part
Posted by Mister Mikado on Saturday, July 2, 2022 11:24 PM

Hi all, I purchased a new Life Like Proto 1000 FM Erie Built PRR but one of the brake cylinders on the forward end of a truck was lost in transit.  Does anyone have this part? Any color is OK. In exchange I have a load of my own spare parts to trade, tell me what you need.  Thank you!

PS:  there are two cylinders on each truck and they are different.  The one I need (circled) has the piston going to the right.

Everyone have a wonderful Fourth,

Rob

 

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