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Rapido Amazing Slumbercoach

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Posted by Overmod on Wednesday, June 22, 2022 8:00 AM

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...or +-$4500K for all six coaches.

That is indeed a hefty sum.  I'd expect full operating underbody detail for a price like that.

 

 

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Monday, June 20, 2022 10:01 AM

I was not quoted prices by ReSourced Rails for the CY SP Business Car or the DP SP 2-8-2 Heavy Mikado? I have seen dealer prices the new CY Penn Clockers (single coaches) within the $450-$550 range, or +-$4500K for all six coaches. I am anticipating higher pricing for the SP Business Car based on an ever increasing inflation rate / similar to a buying a gallon of gasloine. Bayway Terminal NJ

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Monday, June 20, 2022 9:44 AM

Please see specs listed below, Bayway Terminal NJ

Brand: Brass The Coach Yard

Part Number: Various - See variations when ordering

ConditionC-10 Factory New

Backhead/Interior Detail: Yes - Full

Decorated: Factory painted

Lighting: Yes - Full interior and markers as applicable

Couplers/Trucks: Kadee couplers and metal wheel sets

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:36 PM

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I wonder if the SP Business Car will have the same amount of under-carriage details as the Rapido Slumber Car?

I would doubt it.

I have seen a few of TCY's newer passenger car sets, and... WOW! When I went to Brass Expo in Chicago there were several on display, and I was completely amazed.

I don't think TCY spends a lot of time on things that cannot be seen, but they more than make up for it is what can be appreciated.

-Kevin

Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. The SGRR is a freelanced Class A railroad as it would have appeared on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954, in my personal fantasy world of plausible nonsense.

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Posted by DrW on Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:55 PM

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I have a Coach Yard SP Buisness Car shown below on pre order, its my first venture into HO brass. I am buying the car to go with a new Heavy Mikado steam engine on order from Division Point Models. I wonder if the SP Business Car will have the same amount of under-carriage details as the Rapido Slumber Car? I do know it will have a lighted full interior with working marker lights? Bayway Terminal NJ

I have a TCY Santa Fe business car which is just a few years old. It has very nice under-carriage details, although perhaps not quite as elaborate as the Rapido car. On the other hand, I would not get my hopes too high about interior lighting. All TCY cars with working markers or lighted drumheads that I have seen did not come with interior lighting.

 

riogrande5761

How much for that SP obs?

I have not yet seen a price for this specific item. Prices for the most recent TCY passenger cars were $875 - $895.

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Posted by riogrande5761 on Sunday, June 19, 2022 3:10 PM

How much for that SP obs?

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Posted by Bayway Terminal on Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:55 AM

I have a Coach Yard SP Buisness Car shown below on pre order, its my first venture into HO brass. I am buying the car to go with a new Heavy Mikado steam engine on order from Division Point Models. I wonder if the SP Business Car will have the same amount of under-carriage details as the Rapido Slumber Car? I do know it will have a lighted full interior with working marker lights? Bayway Terminal NJ

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Posted by SeeYou190 on Sunday, June 19, 2022 10:00 AM

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I'm sure that lots of underside detail is important to some people but it has never been important to me. Do I really want to pay a premium price for detail that I can't see while the car is rolling along my layout?

This is a point I have pondered for quite a while.

Just to be clear, it is doubtful I will be buying any new model railroading products, so none of my opinions matter to anyone.

The last new rolling stock I bought was three of Rapido's X-31 boxcars. They have a ton of underbody detail that cannot be seen. I am sure that added to the price.

However, looking at the pre-production pictures, all the detail and effort that went into these models made me excited for the purchase. I guess even if the detail is not visible, it did get me more interested in the models.

When I assemble resin and high-detailed plastic kits, I rarely install detail that cannot be seen, and none of my brake rigging is actually correct. However, when Rick shares in-progress pictures of his freight car models with all that beautiful craftmanship on the underside I do not think "what a waste of time", instead I think "wow, this guy is a much better modeler than I am".

When I build the models, I doubt I will install all the details that came with the X-31 boxcars, but I am glad Rapido included all of it.

-Kevin

Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. The SGRR is a freelanced Class A railroad as it would have appeared on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954, in my personal fantasy world of plausible nonsense.

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Posted by John-NYBW on Sunday, June 19, 2022 9:24 AM

I'm sure that lots of underside detail is important to some people but it has never been important to me. Do I really want to pay a premium price for detail that I can't see while the car is rolling along my layout?

The answer is, "No, I don't". 

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Posted by M636C on Saturday, June 18, 2022 3:12 AM

Last night I watched the most recent movie of Agatha Christie's "Murder on the Orient Express". When the team on their push trollies were despatched to dig out the snowbound train, I noticed that the "trollies" were actually British Rail type B4 passenger trucks. These are light weight with fabricated frames but were still much heavier than any permanent way trolley needed to be.

They had wooden floors fitted, but as they were pushed away, the ventilated disc brakes on the axles were visible (as seen in the photos above).

I have no idea why these were used except that they were presumably available, possibly from a preserved railway in the UK.

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Posted by gmpullman on Saturday, June 18, 2022 1:29 AM

Yep, that's pretty neat allright!

Now if only they would design the Budd Disc Brake plunger so it pokes out when the brakes are applied (maybe rigged to the draft gear so it extends when the slack runs in?) now THAT would really be pushing the details to the limit!

 Milwaukee Road Coach 649, ex-552, Ex-Coach-Touralux 5772 "Granite Falls" - Budd disc brake plunger by J.L. Nelson, on Flickr

Rapido did the outboard discs on the Tempo cars so maybe that's where the idea was hatched?

That Jason IS a detail freak! Fun Stuff!

I showed my nephew my Budd PRR "Van Wert Inn" sleeper from Walthers. He was impressed except for the fact that Walthers put clasp brakes on the trucks. I didn't catch that but he did as he has the real one he bought off the Ringling Brothers when they liquidated the circus train.

Amtrak's Amfleet cars have both clasp brakes and discs. This allows them to have the braking ratios needed for over 100 MPH service.

From a maintenance standpoint they're a pain since you have to press the wheels off to replace them Tongue Tied

 Rail View. by MrDanMofo, on Flickr

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Rapido Amazing Slumbercoach
Posted by SeeYou190 on Saturday, June 18, 2022 12:02 AM

One of the banner ads up at the top lately has been for the Rapido Slumbercoach model.

They even put the vented disc brakes on the axles. I have never seen this before, but it interesting it is there. That is amazing.

-Kevin

Living the dream and happily modeling my STRATTON AND GILLETTE Railroad in HO scale. The SGRR is a freelanced Class A railroad as it would have appeared on Tuesday, August 3rd, 1954, in my personal fantasy world of plausible nonsense.

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