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PFM Shay loco question

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PFM Shay loco question
Posted by NYVTRR on Thursday, February 24, 2022 1:29 PM

I just picked up a PFM Shay loco at an estate sale.  I believe it is brass and not sure how old it is.  It runs well and am wondering do I need to do anything such as lubricating it etc.  If so should I use grease or oil etc.  This is the first brass I have owned and is new territory for me.

thanks in advance 

Bruce 

 

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Thursday, February 24, 2022 2:09 PM

It could go back to the Sixties. They imported more than one model of Shay, so to pin it down a bit more and find more info, is it a two or three truck unit? Type of stack? If you have the box, what is the info on it? Could you post a photo?

As far as lubrication, I would LIGHTLY apply Labelle 107 to the drive shaft and moving parts, including the journals If you go inside, lubricate the drive train with oil and place a small drop on the motor bearings. As it probably has metal gears, a schmeer of grease in the gearbox would probably be useful. The key is - use a light touch on the oil and grease

Model Train Lubes – Labelle-Lubricants

How to lubricate your models

https://youtu.be/jxXIIDmNI6g

 

 

 

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Posted by NYVTRR on Thursday, February 24, 2022 3:09 PM

Thanks for the replies. It is a two truck shay with a straight smokestack.  The label on the box was partially ripped off and there were no directions or paperwork with it.  I will lube the outer gears with the #106 oil but I have no idea how to get the body off to do any interior work.  I wonder if there is a youtube video that might help?

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Posted by trainnut1250 on Thursday, February 24, 2022 3:55 PM

NYVTRR

Thanks for the replies. It is a two truck shay with a straight smokestack.  The label on the box was partially ripped off and there were no directions or paperwork with it.  I will lube the outer gears with the #106 oil but I have no idea how to get the body off to do any interior work.  I wonder if there is a youtube video that might help?

 

 

The body should come off as a single piece held in place by a few screws easily removed from underneath the loco...The drive train and the gears all stay with the frame and the body just lifts off...

 

Guy

see stuff at: the Willoughby Line Site

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Thursday, February 24, 2022 4:07 PM

Does it look like one of these?

HO Brass PFM United 2-Truck Class B Logging Shay Geared Loco | BRASSTRAINS.COM

 

SCALE – HO

IMPORTER – PFM

BUILDER – UNITED

TYPE – CLASS B 2 TRUCK SHAY

FUEL – WOOD OR COAL

DATE – 1961

 

HO Brass Model - PFM 2 Truck Shay Logging Loco - Partially Painted Black - Early 1960's Run - United | BRASSTRAINS.COM

 

SCALE – HO

IMPORTER – PFM

BUILDER – UNITED

TYPE – CLASS B 2 TRUCK SHAY

FUEL – OIL

DATE – 1961

 

HO Brass PFM United 2-Truck B-2 Class B Logging Shay - Straight Stack | BRASSTRAINS.COM

 

SCALE – HO

IMPORTER – PFM

BUILDER – UNITED

TYPE – CLASS B 2 TRUCK SHAY

FUEL – OIL

DATE – 1957

You may have yourself a true anteekew there!

PS - You may want to invest in a locomotive cradle. They are available at very reasonable prices

https://www.micromark.com/Foam-Cradle

https://kalmbachhobbystore.com/product/modeling-tool/84017

https://hobbytools.com/products/copy-of-cradle-foam-repair

https://www.amazon.com/HO-Foam-Locomotive-Car-Cradle/dp/B002O5YJ6U

There are probably others out there as well

PPS - Here's an entertaining video by a guy up in Canada named Harrison who is the Doctor Frankenstein ("It's ALIVE!") of reviving old, dead locomotives. Notice how he gets the superstructure off and lubricates things. He's got a whole series of videos which are great fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cl3dD6ISE0

 

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Posted by NYVTRR on Thursday, February 24, 2022 5:27 PM

Beausabre

The one I have is similar to the first link you posted.  Not exact but similar.  Mine is painted black and looks like a factory paint job.  Will check out the video link you posted later on

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Posted by BEAUSABRE on Thursday, February 24, 2022 6:39 PM

PFM Catalog

https://imgur.com/KFjKTU6

 

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Posted by DR JIM FITE on Saturday, July 9, 2022 1:20 AM

I have several PFM Shays 2 and 3 truck dating back to 1964, the first 3 truck.  All of them have metal gears and no plastic.  I don't think it matters if you use oil or grease.  I use oil on all of mine and have had no problems.  Any models with Delrin gears (which I don't think any of these have) have never been damaged by ordinary oil.  I don't run mine much so leave them dry without oil for storage.

Jim

 

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