gmpullman(wonder where this design came from?)
American alligator?
Btw, Peco makes 3rd rail holders for their code 75/100 track...
Happy times!
Ulrich (aka The Tin Man)
"You´re never too old for a happy childhood!"
Yes, Ulrich, the third rail shoe is between the two pilot wheels. The little pantograph collected current across the longer switches encountered around Penn Station and were used to "bridge the gap". A wire was not used but a solid bar mounted on a rigid structure.
I thought about trying to fit a third-rail "prop" in place for the photo
Around 1936 the PRR 11,000 volt overhead was completed so these third-rail locomotives migrated to the Long Island Railroad (owned by PRR) which still uses 650 volt third-rail today. Of course, NYC Railroad used incompatible underrunning third rail and PRR overrunning type in the Manhattan area.
I do wish my budget would allow for one of these:
PRR_L1-proto by Edmund, on Flickr
or this: (wonder where this design came from?)
PRR_L5 by Edmund, on Flickr
Cheers, Ed
Ed - do I detect tiny pantographs on the roofs? I don´t see any 3rd rail pick-ups.
There are two more "juice jacks" on my wish list:
DRG class E 52:
DRG class E 75:
It´ll take a few years for me to save up the necessary funds, though.
Tinplate ToddlerI do too!
Well— that deserves a photo!
PRR_DD1-fi2i by Edmund, on Flickr
I would give anything to ride one of these "side-winders" from Manhattan Transfer, through the Hudson tubes and into the brand-new Pennsylvania Station.
Aah, but to dream
Regards, Ed
gmpullmanI have a soft spot for big juice jacks!
I do too!
Heartland Division CB&QMaxman. You are correct. You don’t want to know. LOL
Okay, thought it was worms. If it is the normal assortment I guess there would not be anything fishy about that.
Good Evening, folks.
The Pennsylvania Railroad had an interesting, and sensible, request to patrons of its dining cars, surprisingly, from way back in 1929.
PRR_smoking2 by Edmund, on Flickr
That second sentence sure sums things up pretty well.
This was copied from a PRR menu for the Red Arrow from my collection:
PRR_1929menu by Edmund, on Flickr
I'm amazed to see how prevalent smoking was back then. One only has to view some of the old TV or magazine ads or some of the movies. Doctors walking into patient's rooms with a cigarette dangling from his lips. Some of the old LIFE magazine ads show the health benefits of smoking, helps you relax!
I had an LGB RhB. Swiss Crocodile back when I was big into garden railroading. I can't seem to find any photos of it Sold it for pennies-on-the-dollar
I'm looking forward to the Broadway Limited HO Pennsy P5a arriving soon. I have a soft spot for big juice jacks!
I hope everyone is doing well...
Here comes Monday!
Cheers! Ed
Steven I was going to pull your leg. Yesterday on a site that I cannot find now, that was supposedly railroad, but there was a pic of a victorian couple, the guy reading and the woman looking bored to tears.
I won't comment on the motivation Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or H, I don't think any of us normal people will ever understand that.
My uncle told me a story about my father that dad never told me. He was on an evacuation hospital ship at Guadalcanal. Supposedly the wounded Japanese on the ship never made it to Australia.
I went to the naval achives at the DC Naval Yard to research that. I actually found logs signed by my father steaming at such and such a course, at various speeds, but no mention of Japanese prisoners. 50 or 60 psychiatiric cases and several hundred battle casualties. The records were all in alphabetical order and the submarine war diaries were fascinating. The US torpedos didn't work at the beginning of the war and the skippers from the prewar period, were too timid to attack.
That led me to a lot of books by marines in the South Pacific as well as a great book called PT 104. A guy who served with Kennedy. When his boat disappeared, they did not bother to look for survivors.
One book that stuck me was from the son of a marine, who found out his father "went over the wire" at night in Guadalcanal to kill Japanese while they slept. Not by orders, just because he wanted to.
One of my colleagues said his dad saw Pappy Boyington shooting down Zeros over the island. It could have happened. War stories are like fishing stories.
Henry
COB Potomac & Northern
Shenandoah Valley
maxman Heartland Division CB&Q One casualty of the project was the bait shop where we used to get bait shop pizza. I might not want to know the answer, but what kind of topping goes on that pizza?
Heartland Division CB&Q One casualty of the project was the bait shop where we used to get bait shop pizza.
I might not want to know the answer, but what kind of topping goes on that pizza?
Maxman. You are correct. You don’t want to know. LOL ... Actually they had a normal assortment, but it was not very good pizza . .. There are not many options here . Alternatively, we can drive to town 12 miles away to get pizza from the Godfather Pizza franchise at the Marathon gas station on Main Street.
GARRY
HEARTLAND DIVISION, CB&Q RR
EVERYWHERE LOST; WE HUSTLE OUR CABOOSE FOR YOU
Eveing Diners
Flo, get the gang and I a and Rick and Steven what they like.
Work Front, checked to see which Nuckelhead coverd my shop Monday. Good thing I did, it is Me! What ever happend to normal days off? Sending a request up to Dec 7th for Dr appoiments that are set for my normal days off.
TF Keep up the good work on the none smoking. You might want to look a little deeper into the surgery. 30 years ago in health care is like compairing a 1988 car to a 2018 car. What use to impossible is now common places. Cannot say I blame you, but do a little research.
Train Front Not sure what the heck happened last night.
Short Line Guess a evil spider must have throwen a turnout. 30 freight cars had derailed but engines where fine?
Main Line. Had a Bachmann PPR Coach come uncoupled on a hard to reach section of my layout. After I got it cleared I checked the coupler height. I was thinking one of the Bachmann coupler pocket had dropped. Strange thing they match perfectly? Guess the evil spider got bored when shut down the short line.
Later, Ken
I hate Rust
Evening diners,
Henry sorry to hear about your colleague and friend.
I've heard a few stories about the Japanese soldiers that thought WW2 still waged on well into the last half of the 20th century.
Without getting into the subject of war too much, there's a theory that Hitlers hatred for Jewish people and those of Hebrew descent stemmed from the fact that his mother had cancer and their Jewish doctor could not cure her ailment and ultimately she passed from it and he blamed the doctor, also supposedly because of a deformity in a certain part of his body it caused him to have a sort of napoleon complex which fueled his thirst for absolute power.
I've done some reading on the European Theatre, not so much on the Pacific Theatre, I am certainly not an expert and could stand to learn more.
Most of my reading has been focused on WW2 aircraft, my other fascination...
Anyways, on to lighter topics.
I started tinkering with the engines I got took one apart and tried getting the other one going, no luck.
I just realized that my friend is turning 18! This is the same girl that I asked out, where does time go?!
Steve
If everything seems under control, you're not going fast enough!
maxmanI might not want to know the answer, but what kind of topping goes on that pizza?
Anchovies
Garry I need to post a picture. Basically I'm doing the same thing, but it looked better before it dried.
Ulrich, nice loco. I have a question for you on a prohibited subject. I think I still have your email addy.
Track fiddlerthey all wanted to operate on my aneurysm
That restores my confidence that I know surgeons. I'm sure they told you the odds if it ruptures, so I will mind my own business.
Just found out that one of the obstetricians I worked with passed away. She leaned over an upstairs deck railing at her home to water plants and the railing was rotten and she fell and broke both arms and her neck. 15 months later, after being a quadraplegic, she passed. If you remember when Regan got shot, one of the surgeons said "Mr President, we are all Republicans", that was her husband.
What I was going to say, before I found out that bit of news, was the Iphone inexplicably downloaded a podcast I hadn't subscribed to in a while. Dan Carlin's Hardcore History. The title is Supernova in the East. He starts with the surrender of a Japanese soldier in the 1970's in the Phillipines. That soldier only one of a couple in the 70's, more in the 60's and even more in the 50's.
Steven did you know about this? Some of us remember it as news of the day. That didn't happen with any other combatant country, in the history of the world. He didn't believe the newspapers of the time that they left for him, because he reasoned the only way there would be any Japanese left, was if they won the war.
Carlin goes into Japanese sociology of the 1800's and how they transformed from a feudal society with guys in ponytails and swords, to an imperial country that could defeat Russia in two naval battles pre WW1. In 10 years they made an amazing transformation, to keep from being swallowed up by other imperial countries of the 19th century. I haven't actually finished the whole podcast, but I find the history fascinating.
In my US education, the Russo Japanese war, was no more that 10 minutes. Then there was Pearl Harbor, Bataan, and the atomic bomb. I learned more from 20 Seconds over Toykyo, and the Seven Samari.
Henry they all wanted to operate on my aneurysm.......... I said NO...
Nobody's going into my head!
They couldn't get a simple knee surgery straight 30 years ago, and now I'm limping around like an idiot
What do I have left to make me think they can go into my head and get things right.... Things aren't right upstairs in my head anyway
I will just roll the dice. I had my younger prime time. Memories are the only thing I will take with me.
I'll just switch into glide and see how long my earned Karma takes me. If my little bubble bursts somewhere along the way... oh well. I've already thought ahead and worked things out for that too.
Afternoon folks,
Well apparently someone somewhere thought my Sundays needed some livening up so a dozen or so assorted members of my extended family are at my grandma's for an impromptu family reunion, so yeah.
Good afternoon.
BigDaddy TF no one wanted to operate on your aneurysm? It must be some place hard to get to. I enjoyed giving anesthesia for those operations because it was quite challenging. All my outcomes were good. Not happy with my rock painting. However too light is an easy fix.
TF no one wanted to operate on your aneurysm? It must be some place hard to get to. I enjoyed giving anesthesia for those operations because it was quite challenging. All my outcomes were good.
Not happy with my rock painting. However too light is an easy fix.
Henry .... Your insights regarding medical issues are appreciated .... I am not sure what your are saying about rock painting. I use thin washes of various colors of acrylic paint starting with lighter colors and ending up with the darkest color. I let each layer dry thoroughly before applying the next layer. ....
TF .... It is good to hear you made a good decision not to smoke last night. You may be sparing your family members of heartaches later in their lives. Imagine being a family member if you suffer in the final days of your life because of fatal lung disease. Suppose a doctor tells them it is time to decide if life support should be removed. That day will haunt them for the rest of their lives. ... I will pray for you.
John Boy .... I was running out of time when I posted this morning. I would like to acknowledge your comment. ... Yes, Cape Jim was a good man, and I enjoyed meeting him. I also enjoyed meeting Inch who also was good. .... The bridge project here at the lakes needed two huge bridges costing $300 million each. The one on the other lake was completed last year. The one on our lake is nearly completed and two of its four lanes are open for traffic. Meanwhile, the connecting highway is being built into a modern four lane highway to replace a narrow two lane highway. One casualty of the project was the bait shop where we used to get bait shop pizza. It was torn down over a year ago....... We do go on our boat from time to time. Sometimes we go to a marina for a hamburger. ....
Ulrich .... Thank you for explaining crocs to us with the photos to illustrate.
Bear .... I'm looking for ward to your next humorous post.
So much for the idea of working on the lake tomorrow. It has been nixed. I think I try to do some more work on the layout here in town. I will just have to make a few guesses as to how to lay cork and track.
Good Evening!
Another hot day in the land of the insane! Too hot for me to feel comfortable, so it´s been a day I didn´t get anything accomplished, other than running my trains on what Dave wants me to call a layout, while I still thing it is a train set. With a small screwdriver, the whole set can be dismantled and packed up in boxes in 30 minutes...
Time for some insight on European Crocodology!
The one and only true Crocodile is the Swiss Federal Railway class Ce 6/8 or Be 6/8. It looks like this:
The Austrian Federal Railway copied the design and came up with this loco, which was actually never called a crocodile.
Germany actually never had an engine nicknamed "crocodile", but an unknown model railroader coined the phrase "German Crocodile" for the Deutsche Reichsbahn (later Deutsche Bundesbahn class E 94 electric.
That´s the one you see on my layout.
Railroaders dubbed this class of engine "Eisenschwein", which translates into iron pig.
Both The Austrian and the Swiss Crocs were built in the early 1920s, while the DR class E 94 was introduced in 1940.
There are more reptiles roaming the tracks, but these are mainly found on Swiss narrow gauge lines.
Again I just wanted to say I appreciated the support last night I think it's the only thing that got me through. The thing that's so hard about quitting to be honest, I don't even really want to.
They found an aneurysm in my brain about 2 years ago that has been monitored and knock on wood has not changed or gotten any larger. It is my belief I was born with it. It's nothing new and people have them and don't even realize it, but that is beside the point once you know you have one.
My doctor who has a wonderful sense of humor told me high blood pressure from smoking is not an aneurysms friend. He said I'd hate to burst your bubble but you will if you don't quit smoking.... How do you argue with that.
Bear I like your sense of humor too. Alrich I see the green electric locomotive that looks like an alligator. The thing is unique and cool looking, we don't have anything like that over here in the states.
Thanks again all.
Morning All! Flo (or however's handy), could I get a roast beef omlette with a side of blue cheese dressing, some wheat toast, and some OJ? Thank you so much.
Hobby Front: Not that I needed it but I bought myself yet another boxcar that should be here tomorrow. Yesterday, I also bought myself a C-clamp for putting the new layout together and well as two quarts of paint for attaching the ground cover. (Normally one would buy a gallon rather than two quarts, but the quarts were on sale for $1 a quart. Two quarts are really more than I think I need but for a buck I could justify getting the extra quart.) The color I had them mixed to ended up being a little darker than I thought but it should be nice for using to attach some earth color ground cover.
If everything goes right, I should get the lake section worked on tomorrow as well. It probably wouldn't come home until next week as the scenery repair is too messy to do it in town and it will need time to dry. (Outside shot it might come home Friday depending on what I feel like after the concert and if use of the vehicle needed can be arranged.)
Track fiddler Good God Last Mountain You definitely gave me the last bit of encouragement I needed. I don't know what else to say but thank you. So that is exactly what I say. Thank you And a special thanks to every ones encouragement tonight
Good God Last Mountain
You definitely gave me the last bit of encouragement I needed.
I don't know what else to say but thank you.
So that is exactly what I say.
Thank you
And a special thanks to every ones encouragement tonight
Track Fiddler .... You are welcome. We Diners care. Feel free to talk again if needed.
Bear ..... That was very funny, and your humor is appreciated.
Ulrich .... I like your layout with the electric locomotives. It looks like much fun.
Track Fiddler, one day at a time. The first 2 weeks are supposed to be the hardest. Maybe this would be helpful. https://www.webmd.com/smoking-cessation/features/surviving-without-smoke#1
I never smoked, my father smoked 3 packs a day. I hated to hear him cough every morning. He did not die from cigarettes, a lymphoma killed him. Most of my friends have been non smokers, but of two former colleagues that are now in their 70's one is a lung cancer survivor, the other throat cancer. They both have COPD.
5" of rain yesterday and more coming later today.
Ed posted a link to a PRR film in the trainphone thread, and now I am stuck watching one PRR youtube video after another.
Just saw the Nascar inspection, live. They measure the cars with lasers. It looks like something from an early 1970's light show.
https://youtu.be/0s6IaTvSf2Y
Bear - I feel honored to have become a target of your unique sense of humor!
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Hey Ulrich!
Nice score!! It looks great on your layout!
I disagree with calling your setup a "train set". Train sets are in boxes. Layouts are what you make with them when you set them up!
Cheers!!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Track fiddlerAnd a special thanks to every ones encouragement tonight
That´s what friends are for!
Steven - when deciding on a car, key in the fact, that in the 1980s and 1990s cars were not made to last as long as they do now. There is nothing wrong in buying an old car, providing that you have the time, the funds, the skills and the proper place and tools to work on it. Not to forget a certain love for grimy, oily hands!
Back to trains!
In an attempt to soothe my shattered nerves, I had put in a bid on a locomotive that has been high up on my "me wants"-list. The bid was very low and I had no hopes of actually winning the auction. The bid was only about a third of what seemed to be the average price for it, but for some reason, I won the auction!
Now I am a proud owner of a 32 year old Marklin model of a Deutsche Reichsbahn (pre 1930s) class E 91 C´+ C´ articulated boxcab electric, which served until 1975, the final years as a yard goat in Munich freiight yard.
The loco was NIB and needed a good cleaning and lubricating to get running, but after that was done she is a beauty to watch running on my layout train set.
The cost? A weeks ration of cigarettes, if you smoke a pack a day!
The car, err truck, I'm now looking at is because I realized I don't do so well in lower riding automobiles in cities, why well combined with the low height of a car and the high height of my head I can't see traffic lights until I almost run them, and then when I stop I have to crane my neck over the wheel to see the lights! So until I'm more experienced a truck is a better idea, that way I see the lights more easily.
I think a Bronco might be better, I have experience servicing 90s F-Series so I can handle all the maintenance. Only things I might do down the road is replace the 4x4 with a two wheel drive front end (I just don't need it, until of course I do!) Nevermind then.
I'll probably swap in a 90s F-Series 460 into it sometime down the road, (I love 460s they're my favorite for their sheer size) and possibly very far, FAR down the road swapping the stock SRW rear end for a DRW "Dually" rear end and slapping a pair of "dually" fenders on the sides, I don't need the extra two tires for towing capacity, but to get the power from the 460 (which will likely be supercharged at some point) down the the pavement, besides it would look mean.
I could get one of those new "Z-Cars" Nissan made a few years back if I wanted to but again insurance and height.
Anyways back to trains, I'm still on a budget to start the next Super Gondola kit bash it'll be a few more weeks though.