Graham Line We get more weight into these cars by nibbling away at the underframe molding and adding sheet lead sold as flashing. GE Silicone II sealant holds the lead in place.
We get more weight into these cars by nibbling away at the underframe molding and adding sheet lead sold as flashing. GE Silicone II sealant holds the lead in place.
Thank you Graham Line.
Fear an Ignorant Man more than a Lion- Turkish proverb
Modeling an ficticious HO scale intergrated Scrap Yard & Steel Mill Melt Shop.
Southland Industrial Railway or S.I.R for short. Enterchanging with Norfolk Southern.
BigDaddy Lead shot comes in a confusing array of sizes. 9 is .08" in diameter. Bigger numbers are larger. 2 is 0.15" Letter sized shot BB (0.18") B and T is even bigger, the buck shot also goes by numbers 00 being the largest. Air gun BB is not lead, but steel, sometimes copper plated or washed. Lead shot will always be more dense. I use 2 shot, ...why? Because it is no longer legal to hunt using lead shot on geese, so I have some extra shells, I cut the top off and salvage the lead. Find someone who shoots skeet, trap or sporting clays. They probably reload their shells and buy lead in 25 pound bags.
Lead shot comes in a confusing array of sizes. 9 is .08" in diameter. Bigger numbers are larger. 2 is 0.15" Letter sized shot BB (0.18") B and T is even bigger, the buck shot also goes by numbers 00 being the largest.
Air gun BB is not lead, but steel, sometimes copper plated or washed. Lead shot will always be more dense.
I use 2 shot, ...why? Because it is no longer legal to hunt using lead shot on geese, so I have some extra shells, I cut the top off and salvage the lead.
Find someone who shoots skeet, trap or sporting clays. They probably reload their shells and buy lead in 25 pound bags.
Thank you Henry for the specific lead shot sizes. Was preplexed on the sizes.
Patrick
j. c. gons that were in scrap service were usuraly the most beat up the link shows one that has some rough treatment and note the top cord is still straight but the panalls between the ribes are bulged out http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ihb/ihb00313ggb.jpg most top cord damage is denting , also it appears as the sides might be splayed out http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ihb/ihb00489gga.jpg . the top cord on hoppers recives much more damage than gons. the mine i worked at had to replace the loader opperator that adjusted load weights on hoppers because the rr said he was causing to much damage to the cars.
gons that were in scrap service were usuraly the most beat up the link shows one that has some rough treatment and note the top cord is still straight but the panalls between the ribes are bulged out http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ihb/ihb00313ggb.jpg most top cord damage is denting , also it appears as the sides might be splayed out http://www.rr-fallenflags.org/ihb/ihb00489gga.jpg . the top cord on hoppers recives much more damage than gons. the mine i worked at had to replace the loader opperator that adjusted load weights on hoppers because the rr said he was causing to much damage to the cars.
Thank you Jim . Growing up around a steel mill I witnessed a great many beat to death plant service cars. As you & others discribed.
Going to try to model these cars soon but like many others. To many projects going on.
riogrande5761 dragonriversteel Still prefer to build my own cars. Not that the new Athearn cars aren't great just a bit overpriced . Then again metal wheel sets,detailing and ready to run. Patrick It must be nice to have the time available to mostly build a roster out of kits. I just don't have that much time unfortunately. As for the RTR 60' flat cars, I wouldn't pay $24 for one either. I did pay $10 for one RTR at a show and the other two I have came with lumber loads - one of those I paid $20 for and the other around $26. And as Rob Spangler has mentioned, by the time you add Kadee's, quality wheels and other parts, you aren't far from the street price of the RTR version anyway.
dragonriversteel Still prefer to build my own cars. Not that the new Athearn cars aren't great just a bit overpriced . Then again metal wheel sets,detailing and ready to run. Patrick
Not that the new Athearn cars aren't great just a bit overpriced . Then again metal wheel sets,detailing and ready to run.
It must be nice to have the time available to mostly build a roster out of kits. I just don't have that much time unfortunately.
As for the RTR 60' flat cars, I wouldn't pay $24 for one either. I did pay $10 for one RTR at a show and the other two I have came with lumber loads - one of those I paid $20 for and the other around $26.
And as Rob Spangler has mentioned, by the time you add Kadee's, quality wheels and other parts, you aren't far from the street price of the RTR version anyway.
Nah, slowly buying a roster for my scrap yard. A couple of kits here & there. Granted when ever I can sneak away to my workshop. Usually get caught...
Agree with you an Rob. It would cost roughly the same.
forgot to add to other post , for weighting flats and empty gons i use 1/4 oz. stick on wheel weights on the bottom side .
I made time for actual modeling by cutting back online surfing and forum commenting.
Graham Line I made time for actual modeling by cutting back online surfing and forum commenting.
That kind of thing is probably true for many.
With a fixer upper house I just moved into a late last year, I honestly don't have that much time at home to spend online anyway - my wife makes sure of that, so there isn't that much to cut back.
What free modeling time I do have is going into seven 2-packs of Wheels of Time lumber kits. There are 2,352 parts that have to be de-sprued, cleaned up with a jewler file, unbowed and assembled into 784 stacks of lumber. Then painted, and stacked in to loads and strapped with banding. Yeah, thats my actual modeling time spoke for for a while.
I'm hoping to get working on finishing the basement next. it is already framed in. Then need to get outlets installed, then drywall and drop ceiling, then may start working on layout construction. The house was neglected so my wife continues to find things needing work.
So yeah, lots of time to build and work on models!
Rio Grande. The Action Road - Focus 1977-1983
Yeah. That's what a friend refers to as the "move the water heater" phase of building a railroad model.