BMMECNYC https://arlweb.msha.gov/alerts/hazardsofacetylene.htm "PROTECT ALL CYLINDERS FROM FALLING OBJECTS. AVOID ROUGH HANDLING, DROPPING, OR KNOCKING OF CYLINDERS TO PREVENT DAMAGING THE CYLINDER, FUSIBLE PLUGS, RELIEF DEVICES, CYLINDER VALVES OR GAUGES. STORING ACETYLENE CYLINDERS ON THEIR SIDE MAKES THE ACETYLENE LESS STABLE AND LESS SAFE, AND INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOLVENT LOSS AND RESULTANT DECOMPOSITION. ACETYLENE CYLINDERS SHOULD BE STORED AND USED IN THE UPRIGHT POSITION AND FIRMLY SECURED TO PREVENT FALLING OR BEING KNOCKED OVER."
https://arlweb.msha.gov/alerts/hazardsofacetylene.htm
"PROTECT ALL CYLINDERS FROM FALLING OBJECTS. AVOID ROUGH HANDLING, DROPPING, OR KNOCKING OF CYLINDERS TO PREVENT DAMAGING THE CYLINDER, FUSIBLE PLUGS, RELIEF DEVICES, CYLINDER VALVES OR GAUGES. STORING ACETYLENE CYLINDERS ON THEIR SIDE MAKES THE ACETYLENE LESS STABLE AND LESS SAFE, AND INCREASES THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOLVENT LOSS AND RESULTANT DECOMPOSITION. ACETYLENE CYLINDERS SHOULD BE STORED AND USED IN THE UPRIGHT POSITION AND FIRMLY SECURED TO PREVENT FALLING OR BEING KNOCKED OVER."
Sorry about the all caps. I didnt feel like re-typing. MSHA felt it was important enough to all caps.
unless Shapeways categorically stated that they were selling you a “full sized” oxy/acetylene welding set, then I’m afraid you won’t get your money back.
The worst they can say is 'NO'. Everything else is money!
Best wishes Bear!
Dave
I'm just a dude with a bad back having a lot of fun with model trains, and finally building a layout!
Hey Mike:
Thanks for the kind words! I'm spending my time working on layout structures and bits for various scenes until my yard dries up and I can move a bunch of crap (is that word OK Steven?) out of my layout space in the garage and into out new shed. I wanted to install a walkway to the shed but the pavers that we used in the rest of the backyard are discontinued so I haven't made a decision on how to proceed re the walkway. That means that for now we are walking across the grass which of course doesn't work in the spring.
Thanks for your comments!
I think mine are the half size. Oxy tank is 35" to the top of valve, and 6" dia., and acty is 30" to the top of the valve, and 7" dia.
Just another variation for you. I don't think you'll find a set as small as mine in a round house setting.
By the way, I think your round house project is amazing! Excellent work!
Mike.
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OK! Thanks guys for giving me the true facts. I had no idea that there could be so many different sizes.
However, what I'm hearing is that if you have a 'full sized' oxygen tank it is going to be somewhere around five ft. tall, not three feet. I think it is safe to say that the Shapeways models are clearly not full sized tanks. If they decline my request for a refund then so be it. Hopefully the 1/64th welding sets won't be too oversized to do the job.
I will wait to see how this all turns out, but if they decline my request for a refund I will be hard pressed to order from them again, that is until they decide to provide more facts with their offerings.
I'm feeling like a real whiner right now. I had high hopes for the Shapeways products.
Best wishes all!
My Oxygen & Acetylene tanks are both the same size..59/1/2//60''. They are mine, I have them filled, not exchanged. Must have them certified/checked every yr. and have a tag on them, before anyone will fill them and also must have the steel cap that is screwed on over the top to protect the valve. They will not fill them without inspection tag or cap. Also empty and filled, I transport them in My pick-up laying down separated by 4 X 4's with steel cap on......no way can they move.
There are also small portable tanks and 3/4 tanks of which I think You have, around 48'' tall.
Tank sizes:
http://www.millerwelds.com/resources/communities/mboard/filedata/fetch?id=503067
Take Care!
Frank
As the bear says, it varies. If its a small job, you dont want to grab a full size bottle for it, when a smaller one will do. Also dont lay the acetylene bottles on their side, ever.
Cheers, the Bear.
"One difference between pessimists and optimists is that while pessimists are more often right, optimists have far more fun."
Dave,
Just walked out to my "Tractor Barn" and measured 59½" to the top of the valve wheel. That's a standard 300 cu. ft. "T" cylinder. Diameter is just a bit over 9". Acetylene is 36" to top of stem and slightly larger diameter.
Hope that gets you what you need!
Have Fun, Ed
I got some supposedly HO scale oxy-acetylene welding sets from Shapeways but they seem awfully small to me. The oxygen tanks measure out to be three scale feet tall not including the valve at the top. IIRC, full sized oxygen tanks are much taller than that.
The reason I'm asking is because I have asked Shapeways to honour their money back guarantee and I want to be able to quote facts instead of guessing.
So, how tall are full sized oxygen tanks?
Please understand that I'm not looking for guesses or estimates. I have already done that myself. What I would really like is for someone who has access to the real thing to throw a tape measure on one and tell me what the actual size is.
Thanks,