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McKeen motor car project

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Posted by tankertoad135 on Tuesday, August 30, 2022 11:16 PM

All I can say Darth is WOWZERS!!Bow

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Tuesday, August 30, 2022 5:31 PM

I actually tried sending it to F&C, but their website email was broken and only gave me an error.  Maybe they'll catch on eventually.Smile

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Posted by hon30critter on Tuesday, August 30, 2022 4:47 AM

Hi Darth,

I think that it is wonderful that you have made your interior available for others to work with. I would love to see what others do with your interior. Maybe F&C could be convinced to list a link to it.

I used a Stanton drive in my version of the car too. It works quite nicely and it isn't particularly obvious.

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by drgwcs on Monday, August 29, 2022 11:45 PM

Very nice model. My wife recently bought me a book on Otto Perry's photos that had a couple of McKeen cars in it. One was Up in 1938 and another was a Chicago Great Western in 1931. The UP unit was on the roster till 1946. Pretty interesting units. It is kind of a shame that not a lot of doodlebugs have been made except for the Bachmann and Walthers versions. The McKean is so weird you wonder if it would sell or not. Edward's motor cars are also an overlooked prototype too. 

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Monday, August 29, 2022 9:09 PM

Here's an update for you all!  I made some modifications to the chassis design (along with corrections to the bathroom placement) and have now uploaded it for free download.  The chassis now supports a Stanton drive!

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:50 PM

Hi Darth,

That is a very nice model! You certainly put your 3D printer to good use. The window glazing looks great IMHO, and the second drive system is very well done. It is much simpler than I imagined it would be. You did a great job on the pilot too.

Thanks for sharing!

Cheers!!

Dave

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, July 23, 2022 9:13 PM

It's been a long time, and I thought it was about time I get this one finished!

I didn't go into as much detail as hon30critter did with his, but I'm happy with how it turned out overall!  These were some very elaborate passenger motor cars and there are a lot of different details inside and out to replicate!

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, October 8, 2016 8:42 PM

One good thing about imaginary fish is that they don't need to be iced...Smile, Wink & Grin

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 8, 2016 3:10 PM

7j43k
Lots of baggage cars had "fish racks".  But they weren't there just to haul fish.

Hi Ed:

Thanks. I knew how the 'fish' racks worked. I was being a bit facetious. I should have been more specific in my wording. No doubt the fish would have been on ice so it would be melt water that was going down the drain. The fish wouldn't have smelled to bad either because it was fresh.

There were many variations of the McKeen trailers so I thought it would be interesting to model something a bit different.

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Posted by ACY Tom on Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:37 PM

Beautiful work, as usual. McKeens were developed by UP people and were very common on lines associated with UP, but were also found elsewher. In my native Ohio, the Akron Canton & Younmgstown and the Lakeside & Marblehead had one each. In fact, parts of the AC&Y McKeen carbody continued to exist as a shed at AC&Y's Brittain (East Akron) yard well into the 1960's!

I have my usual question: What livery do you intend to apply? I don't really know whether I want the answer now, or if I'd rather wait and be surprised.  

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Posted by 7j43k on Saturday, October 8, 2016 10:32 AM

hon30critter

Apparently there were several trailers built that had interesting features like drainage racks so they could transport fresh fish without stinking up the rest of the load. For some perverted reason the thought of 'fresh' fish being transported on a hot summer day appeals to my devious side. I don't quite know how I will model the smell though.LaughLaugh

 

 

 

Lots of baggage cars had "fish racks".  But they weren't there just to haul fish.

What they were was a section of the car with a drain pan in the floor and, usually, a lattice floor rack on top.  That section COULD be used to haul things that leaked or needed to be packed in ice for transport.  Say, milk.

So, no, they didn't just lay a big piece of fish on top and hang out at the other end of the car.

 

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 8, 2016 2:14 AM

Post deleted. It was totally off topic.

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Posted by mlehman on Saturday, October 8, 2016 1:53 AM

hon30critter
Seriously, I can't imagine going back in time to experience the constant assaults on my olfactory senses!

Dave,

That's exactly what you should do...leave the odor of fish becoming unfresh purely to the imagination...that's probably best all aroundWink

Darth,

Nice work on the McKeen, they were just the essence of steampunk design before anyone knew what that was.

I wonder if the single axle drive will make her rather lightfooted?

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:42 AM

Darth Santa Fe
Make the roof removable, then put a piece of fresh fish from the market in there and replace it every now and then.

That would work!LaughLaughLaugh

Seriously, I can't imagine going back in time to experience the constant assaults on my olfactory senses!

Take care!

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Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:15 AM

Make the roof removable, then put a piece of fresh fish from the market in there and replace it every now and then.Smile

I've been meaning to post about this for a while, so sorry to make you wait so long!

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Posted by hon30critter on Saturday, October 8, 2016 12:05 AM

Darth!!

Finally I can breathe!! I have been holding my breath for months waiting to see your drive system. As is usual for you, it is amazing. Very creative and yet very simple! I'm now even more envious of your mechanical abilities.

I finally got to run my McKeen car at the club I recently joined and it looked good and ran quite well. As you are aware, it has a Tenshodo spud drive in the rear truck so it is a bit more mundane than your creation.

I also just bought a McKeen passenger car trailer that F&C now sells and I am exploring the possibilities that it offers. One of the possibilities is to kitbash it into an RPO/freight car. Apparently there were several trailers built that had interesting features like drainage racks so they could transport fresh fish without stinking up the rest of the load. For some perverted reason the thought of 'fresh' fish being transported on a hot summer day appeals to my devious side. I don't quite know how I will model the smell though.LaughLaugh

Anyhow, I look forward to seeing how you finish the car.

Take care!

Dave

 

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McKeen motor car project
Posted by Darth Santa Fe on Friday, October 7, 2016 11:36 PM

A little something I started a while ago.Big Smile

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