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Posted by Cederstrand on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 1:07 PM

Extra strong coffee in a SOGGY SOUTHERN mug, please.

Have a great day, all.

Cheers! Cowboy Rob

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Afternoon Tea and scones in the diner
Posted by galaxy on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:38 PM

WEll,

The cardiologist's Nurse practitioner said if everything is humming along, we should leave well enough alone. I concur whole HEARTedly!! {Pun intended} Bang Head

Now waiting for the cable man to show up and fix things... he will be here about 3-5 pm. Yeah, he will show up at the 4:55pm timing.

Saw the Pest Arrest truck go through to the neighboring park so SOMebody in here has pests they wnat rid of!

Well gotta go help MOH wiht something!

Geeked

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:25 PM

Ken: Got some CRC 2-26? Spray some (doesn't take much) on the commutator (if you can get to it) and turn the motor about ten or twelve full revolutions by hand then put the current to it. The CRC should clean the oil out of the brushes. Bad thing about some can motors I've worked on is you can't get at the brushes easily. I've had it up to the hairline with Beuhler motors. They used to be really good but lately every one I've seen is crap. I haven't had any problems with Proto Power West motors.

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Dancing in the ballast near the Diner...
Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:12 PM

 

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Posted by cudaken on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:31 AM

 Morning Molders!

 Flo, Big Cup Of Coffee and Mountain Dew Chaser!

 Tom, I am all so sorry to hear about your wife health problems!

  Looks like I lost another F unit. Sigh Other day I oiled my Monon PK 3's (so they would last longer?) and I am guessing I got to much oil on the shaft and fouled the brushes. Light comes on but I have to crank the speed up to full power to get it to craw. Going to try a decoder reset but I am not to hopeful.  

 See you all later, time for a nap.

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 11:01 AM

Howdy!

Just another refill on the dark roast, Zoe, Thanks.

Jerry, hope you get feeling top shelf very soon. 

Got my ears back......  'Twas a broken antenna just as we thought.  They also updated the firmware on it to correct a few known issues.  Ah.... Modern technology!  We'll see how they w*rk this time.  Right now they are doing fine!

Best get back to w*rk!

73

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Posted by Cox 47 on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 10:36 AM

Good Morning All...Its sunny and 71 here...I'll have coffee and toast please...thank you...Not much going on ...my fall last week has realy slowed me down...just havn't felt like do'in much of anything..You all have a good one...Jerry

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Posted by howmus on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 9:35 AM

Mornin' everyone!

Zoe I'll have a short stack of buttermilk pancakes with real maple syrup and several cups of dark roast coffee in a FGLK mug.  Thank you Ma'am!

Tom, very sorry to hear of your wife's problems.  Hopefully the medication will stave off more problems with the bones.  Both of you are on my prayers.......

Just got a phone call from the Hearing Center.  My "devices" have arrived so I will go over and pick them up in a few minutes.  Today is the school Budget vote and I have to pick up my Diabetes Meds at the drug store.

A dull gray day here in the Finger Lakes this morning.  Could have a few thunderboomers (isolated) this afternoon.  Currently 64°F with a high of 70° this afternoon.  No breeze at all out there this morning and as Galaxy said, very high humidity.

I will have a very busy day today finishing everything possible for the MLK Dinner.  I am always glad when it is over, but do very much enjoy the w*rk I do with them.....  I always feel good when I see the kids get the awards and even better when I hear how many of them have found both success and happiness in their lives!

I'll be back later!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:34 AM

PA Tom: Sorry to hear about the wife.Angel

 

 

Good morning. It's 71° and mostly sunny. The high will be 82° and it'll be mostly cloudy with a 20% chance of showers and thunderstorms.

On the schedule for today is a trip to town to renew the registration on my van, get some gas and go by the post office to ship out a package. Whatever happens later will come as it may.


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Posted by Stourbridge Lion on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:19 AM

Good Morning Modelers!

It's 42F and clear here heading up to the low 80's again today.  Bunny, what bunny?  So far it has not shown up in our yard since I took away it's safe spot under the shed.  Saw a coyote on the way to work so the bunny better stay close to it's new safe spot or become a fast food meal.  Got the first day of our Wichita Trip posted on my blog <click here> but here is one shot I took on Day #1 I think all will enjoy.

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Posted by Curt Webb on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 8:14 AM

Morning All,

Sitting at home drinking my morning coffee. I go into w**k today at 4 PM. Supposed to be high of 88 F and 60% chance of rain. Yesterday the weather guessers made a big deal of all the rain we would be getting and we got a grand total of 10 minutes of sprinkles-enough to raise the humidity. There is a chance I may have to work Friday but I won't know that probably until  tomorrow.

I plan on finishing ground cover today. It should take about 2 hours at the most.

PA Tom- Sorry to hear about your wife and I will say prayers for both of you.

Everybody have a good day.

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Morning Coffee in the Diner
Posted by galaxy on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:27 AM

JimRCGMO

Galaxy, way to go with the cable people.Wow Bow I may have to learn some tips from you, Jedi Master!

Jim in Cape G.

 

Well, DOn't get to excited. The DVR box they gave us is defective, AND we have no instructions for it! A Techy is coming out this afternoon to hitch up the phone at the pole AND to look at teh DVR thing that keeps turning itself on/off and trying to reboot and failing!

 

jeffrey-wimberly

I have no idea what I'll be doing today. I'm fresh out of project locos until I find some more parts.

Well, Jeffrey I wil just have to look for those locos I PM'd you about  just to give you something to do!

 

 

Well , I have to go to the Cardiologist today. I'll be huffing and puffing wwhen I get ther as it is raing/drizzle and the air is thick with moisture! Actually I will be seeing the Cardiologist's Nurse Practioner. I only see the cardiologist IF I am in the hospital!!!

Well, I guess that is all for now

Geeked

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Posted by gear-jammer on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:25 AM

Chloe, I don't have time for the brakeman's special this morning, so I will take a large coffee to go.  Today should be cooler.  Maybe it will be in the 70's.

Happy Modeling,

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Posted by TMarsh on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 7:14 AM

Good Morning!!!

Coffee and the Brakeman’s Special please. Over easy on the eggs and could you add a waffle too thank you.

Long day today. Gotta be at the funeral home by noon. Visitation from 1 to 4 with funeral immediately following in Springfield, burial in Rochester, then food at the AC club in Sherman. Told the dog she needs to make sure she poops before we leave or she'll be preeeettty uncomfortable for a while.

Ray- Don’t I know about the problemsSigh. I was executor for my Mom, but my sister was all but estranged. She did swoop in and try to get all the good stuff and was rather miffed when she found out we either bought some stuff at the auction Mom had but she didn’t attend, or Mom had already given it to us. Not all the good stuff mind you, just what she wanted us to have and whatever we wanted. That way her daughter could have first pick so no arguements. WinkMom was sly that way. Worked too, though you'll never get to a point wheremy sister doesn't "know what's really going on" whether she does or doesn't. All in all though, it wasn’t bad for me. Luckily Brenda is not the executor of her Mothers estate or I’d need more than beer to get me through this one. I'm used to the once in a while family squabble but this constant always someone mad at someone else and trying to stir the whole bunch in and all that just gets un-nerving to me. You'd think I'd be used to it after all these years. There are a lot of relatives coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches looking for a piece of....well... nothing actually.

Jim- Daughter and Grandson are doing well. No she wasn’t thinking of moving, we were. That Is Brenda and I. We pretty much thought we were staying around for our parents. Now that they are gone, I don’t know what we’ll doHmm. Sounded good until it’s on us. I have a few friends I think I’ll miss. You guys I’d take with me of courseLaugh.

 Tom- I’m so sorry to hear bad news about your wife. Rest assured she is very much in my prayers. You as well.

Jeff- Another treasure from the closet I seeYes. I bet everyone wishes they had a closet like that. You sure that isn’t a second bedroom you just thought was a closet? I’m kinda with the third cousin you wish you could forget on this one. At least a try anyway. I mean, how many chevy trucks have a Packard twin six? It’s not like he’s gotta figure out how to make it fit. Just get it running. Not that I think it'll necessarily be that easy as just get it running, but you know what I mean.  Unless of course it was one of those, hack everything up set it in there and then say….”gee this isn’t gonna work. Well, there’s always that shed that need some support for the wall.”

Gotta see if the trucks show up about 9:30 then if they both have not been there, call the boss lady and say she’ll have to get someone else to put the second one away. No time to wait for it today. Oh sorry, Text teh boss. No one talks on the phone now. Not a surprise, they already know. In fact two guys say they will do it, one is my friend who owns the bar part…er sorry, the LOUNGE part. No bars allowed in Williamsville Confused. The other is the cook who said he would if need be. Hate to see him come all the way from Springfield though. But, I have no choice in this.

Ya’ll have a good day!!!!

Todd  

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 6:15 AM

Good Morning

As a car alarm blares off in the distance...sunny and a high near 77F forecast for today

Going to be a day full of meetings so better get ready to do this....

Have a good day people!!

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 4:05 AM

 

Good Morning! from Tipton IN.

 

 

Cool

 

 

 

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Posted by galaxy on Tuesday, May 15, 2012 3:30 AM

GOOD MORNING!!!

Today is Tuesday, May 15th, 2012!!!

 

Make it a GREAT Day!!!

Geeked

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, May 14, 2012 11:11 PM

 Gary I just tried to send you a PM. Any idea why it was blocked?

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Posted by cudaken on Monday, May 14, 2012 11:06 PM

 Evening Molders

 Flo, Beer Please!

 Work Front Pretty boring today, I like it that way to a point. Being bored all so means I am not making anything. But, It sure felt good walking out the door at 9:01!

 Jim Ken, the owner of K 10 Model Train's has Parkinson. Personally I just happy his door's are still open.

 Vincents I did call Walther's as you know from our PM. I was shocked when I was told they stopped making PK 1000 F-3's in 1996. So no new motors for me!

 New found wealth. Well, it seems like I am rich with the coming $1325.00 Settlement from Mattress Giant. I have not bought a new engine now for 2 years. Most will go into savings, but I might buy my self a treat.

 I have been wanting a M1 for some time now, plus K-10 still has a Blue Line Big Boy! (My PCM one is down again Sigh) Yet my RIP track could keep the Sundown Shop busy for weeks! If not months. Guess I be better off buying decoders and motors. More than likely I will buy some motors and decoders.

 See you all later. Boy two days off in a row, seems like a luxury.

        Ken

 

 Anyone knows of where I can find direct fit motors for PK 1000 F 3's, I would appreciate a link. Vincent won't appreciate it, If I can get them back on the rails, I am keeping them. 

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Posted by blownout cylinder on Monday, May 14, 2012 10:42 PM

Good Evening

Had a fun night this evening...had some people show up and I gave a small operating session for some kids in the neighbourhood...then told them about some of the buildings we have here...

Going to go have some sleepytime tea go.....Zzz...now....

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, May 14, 2012 10:20 PM

Time for me to call it a night. Been on the phone to relatives and friends in Texas and New Mexico finding out about a certain GMC truck. Finally went to the horses mouth so to speak and got the low-down on it. 1941-42 GMC CCKW flatbed ex-military truck that someone shoehorned a 1920's Packard twin-six engine into. Why? Who knows.

Layout front: Painted handrails. Metal ones were no problem. Paint doesn't like to stay on the plastic ones but silver ink from a Sharpie works great. Noticed my Bachmann GP7's were starting to whine a little so I put a drop of Dexron/Mercon ATF on the gears and they're whisper quiet again. Ran the Athearn/Proto GP35 behind the freight on address 00 for 20 minutes forward and turned it around and ran it for 20 minutes backward. Runs as quiet as any of my Atlas locos. Worked on a lighting problem on one of the GP9 Frankenlocos. The way the light was set up made the cab light up like a Jack-O-Lantern at Halloween. With the application of a little electrical tape only the headlight and number boards light up now. See y'all tomorrow.

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Posted by Heartland Division CB&Q on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:52 PM

Hello everybody ... 

It's been very busy last few days here. 

PA Tom .... Sad to read about Mrs. PA Tom..... Prayers for her.

I'll catch up with everybody tomorrow hopefully. 

Cheers. 

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Posted by Packer on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:47 PM

Evening guys

I got my order from Atlas today. The correct truck sideframes for my C425s (exposed bearing, instead of the enclosed Kato one), an SD24 cab, and some numberboards for it. My chop-nose geep project knd of advanced a bit. The Atlas cab and the P2K Geep take a bit of work to fit right on the long hood, but the front of the cab re-uses the P2K's tabs for the front of the cab. After the modifications, the cab fits nice and tight. I still have yet to pick up a split-windshield conversion kit from des plaines hobbies to make the cab right for the GP5 I'm building. Pictures of the Alco's new sideframes and the atlas cab fitting on the P2K GP9 tomorrow after work.

Kind of tired after hanging out with some friends. I'll stop by tomorrow morning before work.

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Posted by tcwright973 on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:19 PM

Todd - Sorry to hear of your wife's loss. And it's sad to see what happens to some families following the death of someone. In my case, having lost my sister first, then my father, and finally my mother, I didn't have those problems. All the decisions were mine, and mine alone. Of course, so was all the work and worries too.

It's been kind of hard to be cheerful here at home. The wife just keeps getting bad news on top of bad news. We saw our doctor for our annual exams. He ordered a bone density scan and an ultra scan on her leg, and prescribed an anti-inflamatory drug as well. He was concerned about the possibility of blood clots in her ankle. Fortunately, the ultra scan showed no signs of them. So last Thursday we had blood work done, then Thursday she had the bone density test and a mammagram done. Friday, we saw the surgeon. X-rays revealed that the ankle has literally come apart. He also said he was somewhat taken back at the amount of arthritis that has shown up since the last x-rays at the end of March. Surgery will be required again, but he isn't sure what he is going to do yet, Either screws, screws and a plate, or fuse all the bones together. He ordered a CT Scan, which we had done after leaving his office. Our next appoitment is this coming Friday. But on Saturday, our Primary Care Physicians office called to tell her that the bone density scan indicates she has Osteoporosis, and called in a prescription for that. About an hour later, the mail comes and the results of her bloodwork is delivered. The medication she has been taking for a thyroid condiction is not doing its job and the doseage has been doubled. Boy, old age isn't for sissies.

On the railroading front, we did get in 2 hours of railfanning on Sunday. Caught 11 trains in that time on Norfolk Southern's main line here. The most interesting one, and one which I haven't seen before, was an intermodal with a single Dash 9 with about a dozen double stack cars. So all you folks with layouts, you don't always need 125 well cars to be realistic. It really is true I believe, that anything a model railroader wants to do on his or her layout, probably has a prototype to prove it's acceptable.

Hope everyone has a good one tomorrow. Tom

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:17 PM

howmus

Hey Jeffrey, I seem to remember that Packard made a straight 8 at one time....  Don't know about a double 6???  My Dad and I used to go through the "Dead Letter Office" at Don Howard's Farm Machinery (his cousin) every Spring to see what we could get up running to use on the farm for the summer.  We checked out the old junked vehicles he had and found one of the straight 8's.  He said they great for using up gasoline!

He was right. A lot of the old straight eights were low compression engines that had smooth running characteristics. They were however prone to crankshaft and camshaft cracking.

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Posted by howmus on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:06 PM

Evenin' folks!

Janie Just my....  Oh Jim's paying...  Well add a strawberry sundae with extra whipped cream to that decaf I usually get.  No! No1 I mean set the sundae next to the decaf, don't actually put it in the decaf......  Ya gotta tell them everything around here sometimes....  Yes, I know you were only kidding with me Janie!

Done went to the Docs today....  I got there 20 minutes early like they always say, checked in, and sat down.  My rear end had no sooner touched the seat when they called my name!  15 minutes early... I hadn't even caught my breath from hiking in from the other end of the parking lot and climbing 2 flights of stairs to get to the waiting room.  Nurse who called me in is both new and just about the cutest little thing I have seen in years....  She had me stand on the scale (which was as usual 25lbs. heavier than mine at home) then marched down the hall and took my blood pressure.  Yea, right, with all of the above factors, they expect it should be normal!  The doc took it again when came in the room and the nurse was gone.  BP WAS normal by that time.  He looked over all the blood work, nodded his head and said Wow!  This is the best blood work I have ever seen for you, and grinned.  he then told me my Cholesterol was all of 141.  Good cholesterol was normal and the bad cholesterol was the lowest he has seen in a while.  Liver and Kidney function were normal.  He said the uric acid was still high but about half what it was a year ago.  He asked me if i was having any trouble with my knees?  I did a full deep knee bend stood up and said, "Nope!"  He nodded his head and then filled out my Boy Scout Health form and said to keep doing what I have been doing!

I was very careful driving home after the appointment.  Nothing gives you the feeling of impending doom like a doctor telling you that you are in great health!

Stopped at the LHS on the way home for 3 little items they always have in stock.....  Only one was in stock, of course since I need it now!

Hey Jeffrey, I seem to remember that Packard made a straight 8 at one time....  Don't know about a double 6???  My Dad and I used to go through the "Dead Letter Office" at Don Howard's Farm Machinery (his cousin) every Spring to see what we could get up running to use on the farm for the summer.  We checked out the old junked vehicles he had and found one of the straight 8's.  He said they great for using up gasoline! 

Barry, have you heard anything yet on your tests?  Keeping you in my prayers!

Have a great night and prayers for all in need!

73

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, May 14, 2012 9:04 PM

JimRCGMO

Hey, Jeff - your friend isn't related to you, is he/she? (The one rebuilding the truck, that is)

He's one of those third cousins you wish you could forget. Anyways, I tried to get more information from my source to no avail. So I got the guys phone number and called him up. It's not like a stranger was calling. We knew each other many years ago, back in the late 60's to mid 70's. Anyhow I told him I heard about his project from a mutual friend and I was curious. Yes, the engine is a Packard. Turns out I was right in my supposition that it's a twin six. 1924-25 to be exact. The truck is a GMC WW2 vintage CCKW flatbed that had obviously had an engine change that required some cutting on the frame and body. He wants to rebuild the truck and at the same time update it to use more modern parts as parts for a 1941-42 truck are somewhat difficult to locate and more difficult to afford. And he insists on rebuilding the engine if at all possible. Personally I think he has a white elephant that should be drop kicked into the middle of the nearest scrap yard. But then I've been known to have rebuilt a couple of basket cases myself. Today the only basket cases I rebuild run on HO track.

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Posted by JimRCGMO on Monday, May 14, 2012 8:39 PM

Evenin', Chloe! I'll have a hot fudge sundae and a  Rio Grande  mug of decaf, please. Thanks! (Nope, just decided to lower my caffeine intake, doesn't keep me up any later).  Hey, where'd the seats and counter go for the front part of the Diner? Surprise Oh, remodeling, eh, Dennis? Smile, Wink & Grin

L&NTim11060

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One of those days, Tim? Hope today went better for you... Angel

Todd, better take your helmet with you to the funeral (leave it in the car, so you can get it on real quick after the funeral's over)... How're your daughter & grandson doing? I had been thinking they had moved out of your area a while back (like to Texas, I thought...?) or something. But maybe you mentioned it when I was taking Zzz lessons from Duke...

Ken - your LHS is closed on Tuesdays & Wednesdays? That's strange...Confused Got another one not too much further away?

Galaxy, way to go with the cable people.Wow Bow I may have to learn some tips from you, Jedi Master!

Hey, Jeff - your friend isn't related to you, is he/she? (The one rebuilding the truck, that is)

Kind of a lazy day today, as I was off w**k, so went by the library to use their internet (faster there). However, the spot I like (with plug-in and without camera over your shoulder) was in use by one doctor that I've seen in there before. So I used the laptop at one comfy chair until the battery ran mostly down (about mid-day or so, but I was getting a little hungry, too). Came home, fixed a sandwich and *then* went by the grocery store (never do it the other way 'round, I've found...) for a bit of grub. Have been trying to hunt down some info on my elusive grandfather (on Mom's side); no more luck on that than I had over the weekend.

Speaking of relatives (as some have recently, I guess my brother and I were luckier than some. Mom died in 1977 and when Dad died almost 10 years later, I didn't have the funds to go to Phoenix. My brother (the one who's 3 yrs. older but retired at 55? Yeah, that one Wink) lived in L.A. (not the one near Jeff), and he flew/drove over and took care of things. He sent me various memory stuff (my school gradecards that Mom had saved and Dad kept after she died), and a decent chunk of change. I figure brudder was well enough off that he didn't need much (might even have given me more than half, for all I know). And Mike took care of the funeral in St. Louis and arrangements for that, too. Could've been much worse, indeed.

Say, Chloe, are they gonna put some reclining chairs in the space that they have, or put the seats back in that we had? Oh, yeah, some of us can sleep just about anywhere, you're right. Whistling

Prayers for peaceful funerals (and afterword), for comfort, peace and healing for those in need of them.

[Edit]: Sheesh, two nights in a row I got TOP? Okay, Chloe, set up the buffet line again.

 

Blessings,

Jim in Cape G.

 

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, May 14, 2012 6:02 PM

wetidlerjr

"Despite the commonplace assumption, the new-generation Packard marine engine, initially tagged the 4M-2500, was anything but a re-popped Liberty. Instead, Vincent, Packards lead engineer, started with a clean sheet and designed a four-stroke, 60-degree V-12 with an aluminum block with a bore of 6.04 inches and a 6.50-inch stroke, which brought it to 2,490 cubic inches. Weighing 2,900 pounds, the 4M-2500 had four valves per cylinder, a 6.4:1 compression ratio, and a centrifugal supercharger, later models were also fitted with an intercooler. A Holley 1685F aircraft carburetor supplied the fuel, 100-octane gasoline, fired by two spark plugs per cylinder. The first engines developed 1,200hp, but improved versions with higher boost levels nominally made 1,500hp. Packard built 14,000 marine engines during the war, three of which went into each of the Navy's 768 PT boats, two astern and one amidships for better service access. "

From what is above, I really doubt the truck engine is the same as the PT boat used as it was designed as a marine engine from the start. One site said that Packard stopped making trucks in 1922 and except for some Packard cars custom-converted into trucks for dealers there were no more Packard trucks after that year.

Got more information. The truck itself is a GMC but the engine is a Packard twelve cylinder engine though I don't think it's the type my source thinks it is but is likely the pre-war Packard twin six engine.

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Posted by jeffrey-wimberly on Monday, May 14, 2012 4:42 PM

wetidlerjr

 

PARTS http://www.kanter.com/packard/pac-sen.html

http://www.pt-boat.com/packard/packard.html

"Despite the commonplace assumption, the new-generation Packard marine engine, initially tagged the 4M-2500, was anything but a re-popped Liberty. Instead, Vincent, Packards lead engineer, started with a clean sheet and designed a four-stroke, 60-degree V-12 with an aluminum block with a bore of 6.04 inches and a 6.50-inch stroke, which brought it to 2,490 cubic inches. Weighing 2,900 pounds, the 4M-2500 had four valves per cylinder, a 6.4:1 compression ratio, and a centrifugal supercharger, later models were also fitted with an intercooler. A Holley 1685F aircraft carburetor supplied the fuel, 100-octane gasoline, fired by two spark plugs per cylinder. The first engines developed 1,200hp, but improved versions with higher boost levels nominally made 1,500hp. Packard built 14,000 marine engines during the war, three of which went into each of the Navy's 768 PT boats, two astern and one amidships for better service access. "

From what is above, I really doubt the truck engine is the same as the PT boat used as it was designed as a marine engine from the start. One site said that Packard stopped making trucks in 1922 and except for some Packard cars custom-converted into trucks for dealers there were no more Packard trucks after that year.

See: http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/features/packard_cut_no_corners_with_its_trucks

Thanks for the information. I'll have to contact the source of my information and ask them to ascertain the age of the vehicle involved. The person who told me isn't a car person and I don't get into vehicles older than the mid 50's. Based on your information this truck HAS to be something prior to 1922. I'll see what I can get from my source. She's like a fly on the wall at virtually any conversation and everything is bound to go over the fence.

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