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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 11, 2006 7:22 AM
 IndySon wrote:

 Gumby4 wrote:
Good evening all!

Just got home.  I don't know which organization I despise the most: al-Qaida or the TSA.  One is evil the other incompetent.  Wish I could go into more detail.  As least somebody smacked some sense into the TSA this morning. 

Gumby hit the nail on the head...but instead of doing anything about it (the stupidity part), we accept it to a large extent as necessary for security.  It is not.

Words have been put into frequent media use to make common sense a negative attribute.  If terrorists are trying put explosives on aircraft, then instead of TSA using limited resources searching every single person and their carry on bags for their potential explosives, and causing such tremendous waste in innocent products going to a landfill, why wouldn't the TSA concentrate more on identifying the terrorists and eliminating them from the plane?

Does the word "profiling" come across as negative?  Sure it does, because it's usually tied to the word "racial" and that's just a trigger that nobody wants to touch with a twenty foot pole.

But the fact of the matter is, terrorists for the most part fit a profile.  Innocent people who fit this profile can be screened with dignity and allowed to proceed with minimum changes.  Procedures can be established that will allow security to focus on the most probable suspects.

Too much politics.  Too much political correctness.  Not enough common sense.

No matter what you do, it cannot be set in stone, and the procedures must be constantly changing to prohibit the bad guys from circumventing security.

There is no silver bullet.  But TSA can exercise more common sense in this instance, stop hassling low-probability and innocent people (the great majority), and focus on identifying the bad guys and their tactics.

What we do today in US society is called "shotgunning".  We shoot into the crowd to get the few bad guys...and everyone is wounded in the process.  We do it every day when we create laws and rules meant to stop poor behavior or performance by the few, rules that by design target the innnocent many...instead of confronting the individual who is causing the problem.

We have evolved into a non-confrontational society.  Does the almost-a-word "wussie" sound familiar?

Bad people prey on wussies.



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Posted by HEdward on Friday, August 11, 2006 8:34 AM

Morning folks.  Coffee and a CHEAP donut please.  Yesterdays bill was outrageous.

 

I do my political ranting and raving on:  http://www.ourworldasweseeit.net 

If you decid to go there, PM me so I can let DD-2 know that you're joining.

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Posted by Noah Hofrichter on Friday, August 11, 2006 11:23 AM

Hey guys,

Not much new from me today, although I have made a bit of progress on the module, getting it ready for the next show. I've been touching up a little minor scenery damage from transporting the thing, as well as finishing the scenery around a building I scratchbuild for the module. It's all slowly falling together. If all goes as planned I should have pictures before the end of the weekend to post.

See ya around,

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 11, 2006 12:40 PM
 HEdward wrote:

Morning folks.  Coffee and a CHEAP donut please.  Yesterdays bill was outrageous.

 

I do my political ranting and raving on:  http://www.ourworldasweseeit.net 

If you decid to go there, PM me so I can let DD-2 know that you're joining.



Sorry about bring politics into it.  As an airline pilot though, yesterday became very personal.  Needless to say my family walks on pins and needles everytime the "BREAKING NEWS"  alerts come on TV.  Yesterday, did not help that. 
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Posted by HEdward on Friday, August 11, 2006 12:57 PM

I don't mind talking politics, but that's why there are a thousand politics forums out there.

I live half the week in NJ and half in PA.  I want to see them justify strip searching Lars Johanssen while Muhammit barely gets his carry-on glanced at.  If the terrorists were brown haired, blue eyed 48 year  old men, I'd expect to be anal probed even if just picking someone up at the airport.  Then the brits held back the info on arrests until they had most of the psychos.  Seems that even so, the Led Namont types are screaming that it was all a Bush plot.  yeah, right.  These silly mooslums got coded messages from VP Cheney and didn't ever have an idea what was going on.  They're all innocent little angels.  Flight 800 was shot down by a kid with a model rocket upgraded to DCC.  The hundreds of fictionally registered democrats in Ohio weren't allowed to vote and so the dems screamed voter fraud.  Lieberman ran for VP and reelection as a Senator at the same time, hedging your bets?

Going for it!  Gore's little book says that you can help stop glowbull warming by not wasting paper(his book is full of family vacation pictures, DUH!)  I can go on and on and on and on. 

Kevin is whining now.  Be back later.

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Posted by SOU Fan on Friday, August 11, 2006 1:05 PM
 inch53 wrote:

Mornin all, coffee n a short stack Zoe,

Another foggy mornin here, and still have a chance of rain. No outside work, so I guess I'll have to play with the layout some more.

JERRY, I remember the Ben Colter, just can't remember the words. I misss the old stuff, was you were still on the air.

RT, good too hear you be doin alright, keep it up.

RYAN, how bout some photos of your progress on on the new project. 

Thought I'd post some odds n end pics. Seen Tony Stewarts car hauler over in Effingham the Sun. before the brick yard for you Nascar fans


And this is the G scale they had over to the Altamont show

Worked on the layout some plan on some more today. Mother's got a jewlery party tonight in Paris, so she won't  be round. She also has to be at the fair grounds tomorrow to do checks for the mud bog there, so our week end shot again. Hope ya'll have a good day

inch


Dude that is sweet. I've never seen his real hauler before.  I have his hauler in 1"64 scale though.
Long live the King


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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, August 11, 2006 2:14 PM

Friday, August 11, 2006

Good afternoon all!

Many threats of thunderstorms but so far not much in the way of rain in our neck of the woods for the past two weeks, we are getting some cooler temps however, and that is a nice change. It has been in the mid to upper 70’s since mid morning and staying there this afternoon too.

Hoople, good to hear the 6% is working well with the 0-6-0 and the 50’ cars!

Dick, sounds like a very productive day of MRing you had there. And welcome to the break from the heat, it sure is nice!

Inch, since we joined the Y this past weekend I have not been in the train room in almost a week! Here are a few of the pics from the layout progress, though they do not represent the latest work:

This is the sub-roadbed for the double mainline run and the newly installed hardboard backdrop.

This is some of the backdrop section before the next phase of the sub-roadbed installation.

Inch, nice pics you got there! How long did you follow that HD truck?

PC, nice picture post card photos of that sun set. You have a great view to look forward to once you settle into the new house!

 

You all have a great weekend!

Cheers,

Ryan

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 11, 2006 3:37 PM

Good Evening to all, another crazy day Had to finish shopping for school supplies, the boys decieded they wanted to start classes next week(how's that for a turn around, most kids fight going back to school) so that means I 've got to get busy with my lesson plans, we'll most likely start Wed.This means I'll need to do my layout at night. My health problems luckly haven't become anything yet, my blood sugar isn't high by Gov. standards but my Dr. has been monitoring me for several years (my Dad's family has had probles for many generations as well) and he has been see an increase over the last couple of years as for the colestoral (bad spelling)  2 years ago It Was at 280 now It's down to 229 and I have lost 40lbs with another 10-15 to go. I'm watching my diet carefully. Enough of my rambling,I've got work to do.

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Posted by steveblackledge on Friday, August 11, 2006 3:56 PM

Howdy folk's,

Anyone fancy a black Pudding for dinner,  Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Hope everyone's in good health

I just posted a thread about a satellite station i just built, have a look, it's my first topic i'v posted in ages

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Posted by Hoople on Friday, August 11, 2006 4:07 PM
SilverSpike,  I said the 4-8-4. I don't have the 0-6-0 yet.
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Posted by SilverSpike on Friday, August 11, 2006 4:17 PM

 Hoople wrote:
SilverSpike,  I said the 4-8-4. I don't have the 0-6-0 yet.

Oh! That makes sense! I was wondering if an 0-6-0 was getting up a grade like that.

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Posted by bjdukert on Friday, August 11, 2006 6:37 PM

Evening all

Just been sitting back here in the corner booth listening and watching,so let me give a belated Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to all the newbies and especially the Lady of the group.

Ryan Wait until Paul sees both of your Hi-Tech thingys sitting side by side in the pic of your layout.Big Smile [:D]Wink [;)]Whistling [:-^]

Racquetball was my sport for a few years and it is the one I did get pretty good at as I was playing club level A. We would play 5-6 days a week and 3-4 hrs at a time,not to mention league and challenge night. Good Game.Approve [^]Smile [:)]Thumbs Up [tup] Get a good composite raquet,it saves the elbow as you don't get the vibration going up the arm.

Eight weeks to Apex

PC The house is coming along very nice.Smile [:)]Approve [^]Thumbs Up [tup]

Not much more to say,so I’ll just sit here in the corner booth for a while more

Talk to you later

Duke

Sign - Oops [#oops],Dick,I made it to HD tonight to help you with your up front parking.

Well now,would you look at this. First post in a while and I get TOTP,so belly up everyone. 

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Posted by grayfox1119 on Friday, August 11, 2006 7:15 PM
Good evening everyone, a "10" today weatherwise here....70's , a few clouds, a light breeze, low humidity, it doesn't get any better here.

DUKE: Thanks for helping to keep to parking spot open at HD....you and Paul, and PC are doing a great job, I think RYAN is shopping at HD too by the looks of all that wood on his layout pics.

LISA: Great job on weight drop and Cholesterol numbers. I was at 290 the month I retired from work at age 62, then, all the yard work and far better diet at home than at work caused my CH to drop to 215. The HDL is real good at 68, and the LDL is at 129, just under the limit of 130, but...the doggone Triglycerides cause the total CH to be a bit high. And that means still too much saturated fat in diet, I just have to stop eating french fries at Wendy's. LOL

Thats it for now guys, talk later
Dick If you do what you always did, you'll get what you always got!! Learn from the mistakes of others, trust me........you can't live long enough to make all the mistakes yourself, I tried !! Picture album at :http://www.railimages.com/gallery/dickjubinville Picture album at:http://community.webshots.com/user/dickj19 local weather www.weatherlink.com/user/grayfox1119
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Posted by Paul W. Beverung on Friday, August 11, 2006 8:32 PM

Evening Gang: Would you believe that it rained today? ould you believe it rained yesterday also? IT DID! not a whole lot but itwas wet. We had about a 1/8in yesterday late afternoon and about 1/4in late afternoon today. Not enough to break the drought but something. Of course it's still hot and now it's muggy too.

I mowed what is left of the lawn just befor it rained. I worked about 10 min. and came in to drink some water and rest for a half hour or so than back out. There isn't much grass left so it only took 2 cycles. Thats bad for an acre and a half.

The cows are still getting along but we're feeding a bale a day. We also feed 50lbs of range cubes a day. I hope that we get alittle growth on the pastures with this rain but I think that it may be too late to make a differance. It may help the hay fields. It's supposed to rain again Sat, Sun, and Mon. We'll have to wait and see. Down here when they say scattered thunder stormes it depends on which side of the road you are on to get rain.

Well I'm going to hit the sack. Good Night All

 

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Posted by egmurphy on Friday, August 11, 2006 9:35 PM

Good Evening Coffee Clubbers,

Just got back home a short while ago.  Fran is busy unpacking and here I am on the computer.  Smile [:)]   Maybe tomorrow I'll start looking at the 12 or so pages that you guys have posted since my last appearance.  The good news is that we have no more trips planned until the end of the month.  We may even head out to the orange grove tomorrow to check on how the crop is coming.

The trip went well.  The convention was nothing special, but it's always good to see some old friends again.  I will write up short summaries of both trips sometime this week, I promise.  Pictures will probably need to wait until I get the Canada trip pictures correctly downloaded from the CD's they're on.

Anyways, just to let you know that we're back and well.

Best regards

Ed

 

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Posted by Anonymous on Friday, August 11, 2006 11:34 PM

Another late night for me(insomnia stinks but hate pills), Last night was up until 3:00am slept until 6:30 and here I am writing at midnight Ah Well"Such is the life of the merry one". I actually don't mind being up late, I can get a lot of stuff done at night(just nothing to loud,I don't wake the boys,bad, bad, bad, idea!!!). Any way I have been fighting with my tunnel trying to set it up so I could remove it in the event of break down(not on my watch of course) Finall can up with a nonconventional idea. I started by weaving some stiff wire through some plastic canvas(In case you don't know thats that plastic stuff crafters use to make alot of "useful?" things) The canvas is fairly flexable but doesn't hold shape alone, the wire enabled me to manipulate the tunnel into the pefect shape, Covered it with news paper(to cover holes) and used a plaster of paris, It worked great and isn't very heavy, best of all I can lift it up for those times when the need arises.

Duke, thanks for the welcome, I don't mind being the only lady in the room as long as it is filled with Gentlemen and so far everyone has been very nice.

Grayfox, Doc wants my total below 200 , next apt. is next month, so I keep striving and praying the combo has always worked for me.

Good Night to One and All

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Posted by steveblackledge on Saturday, August 12, 2006 4:35 AM

Morning all,

 hello Lisa, good to see you, fancy a cup of Ed's fresh orange, speaking of Ed i'm glad you had a good trip Ed, looking forward to seeing the pics, sometimes it's best to let the lady unpack, i always get shouted at for putting stuff in the wrong drawer

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Posted by wetidlerjr on Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:36 AM

Good morning ! from Indiana.Big Smile [:D]

 

08-12-06

Clown [:o)]

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Posted by inch53 on Saturday, August 12, 2006 6:04 AM
Mornin all, the farmers special, OJ n coffee, Janie
62, cool nclear out this morning, feels great. Ended up going to Paris with Mother last night, since it was at the DIL's house,. So Kris, me an two of the boys took off running round. We ended up out out the old NYC yard, gotta few pics there, wasn't any engines there, just grain cars.
 Got some bad news yesterday, #1 daughter and hers are moving to Florida. We're not happy bouts it, it's bout all we can do to get to Ohio now, let alone there. Next, I was informed, that the oldest grand daughter is going to live with us and go to school here. now I'm not happy. Beths been having trouble with school where she's at, guess it's hard to put a small town kid into a big school.

PC, enjoyed the evening pics

GUMBY, the rant was understandable in your case, and the news people don't help much.

DEKRUIF, we see several haulers out on I-70 every summer, just can't get a photo most the time.

RYAN, looks like progress on the layout, and we chased the  hauler bout a 100 yards. We seen it coming out of a motel parking lot. We're not #20 fans, just thought some would like the pics.

ED, good to have ya back..

Worked on the layout some yesterday, hard to see much progress, but I'm closer to getting some bridges in and more track laid over Mill Creek. Won't get much done today on it, since the weathers nice, I'll be outside. Mother has to be at the fair grounds this afternoon for the mud bog. Needs to get started on chores, hope ya'll has a good day
inch

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Posted by rtraincollector on Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:01 AM

Inch don't blame you for not happy about daughter moving to FL. I lived there for 10 years and was glad to leave (no offense Flip but when family is 1000+ miles away not easy to visit for either.) My point FL is nice place to visit but its not for me the ones there that enjoy great for them its just not for me. Enjoyed my self most the time I was there but its always nice to get atleast close to home.

Hi all Sign - Welcome [#welcome] back ed from your trips.

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to any new members I may have missed.

Not much happening here heading down to the local hobby shop to talk to the owner/freind see whats happening and maybe take my 1931 set and run it for a while seeing I don't have a layout yet.

 

Well take care all.

Life's hard, even harder if your stupid  John Wayne

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:13 AM
e]

lol, if I put stuff in draws I can't find them more often than not!
amazing, but I haven't been here a few months, and got a bit of a shock at the new look! it's good anyway, and nice to be back.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:55 AM
Goood Morning All!

Cup of coffee and a bagel to go, please, Zoe.  Thanks.

Long "to do" list today so I need to get started.  Have fun.

OBTW, we went with the NCE Power cab.  I'm going to work on it tomorrow.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:43 AM

Thanks for the offer Steve, I'll Take that OJ and a cup of coffee and a whole grain bagel, please.

Good morning to one and all, hubby is home today so maybe  I will have a few (uninterupted) minutes to work on layout(prob.very few) I need to clean some tracks today but my eraser has had it, anyone know a good way to clean them with out it?

Got to go for now

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Posted by Attaboy on Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:47 AM

Morning everyone, been a while since I last posted so I decided to brave the dialup and check in.

Sign - Welcome [#welcome] to all the new folks I've seen while reading at work.  I'm not going to name names, don't want to miss anyone.

RT, good to hear your problem wasn't too serious.

Since my vacation was "flooded out" last month I decided to take a mini-vacation and make this a four day weekend.  I went to Steamtown in Scranton yesterday.  One day is not enough for that place.  I paid for the cab ride in the engine.  That was really interesting.  Talking to the crew there, it takes 60 hours of training to get a pilot's license and 240 hours of training to get licensed to operate a steam engine!  Here's a couple pics:

They have a little of everything from large engines...

to small ones.

This is the one I rode in, a CN Mikado, my favorite type of steamer.

Guess that will do for now.  See you later.

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Posted by Duce on Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:12 AM

hello guys

 Its been a while sence I got on here. I have been busy. My wife had our baby boy back in march. They are both doing fine now. Mom was down for about 2 months. So I have a new found respect for mothers. We sold our house and moved closer to my work so my drive went from 2 hours to 15 mins. Thats great!!!!

 I had to take down the railroad though. But I will get to start over soon. We plan on moving to texas sometime this year. But it broke my heart to take all that work down. Im getting out of the Navy here in about 10 days. So i get to be home more with my new buddy.

I hope all is well with you guys. I hope to talk to you guys soon

 

Cary

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Posted by tarp on Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:32 AM

Hi Paul,   I sympathize with you on the rain and pasture.  I had an alpaca farm in Washington with two acres  of pasture for them and another 10 acres of desert for a horse.  Also an acre of landscaped yard.  We were in the high desert with around 7 inches of moisture a year so we ran sprinklers every day for an hour or so.  Seemed to be chasing water every day.

I used to stand and watch the snow come down.  Now here in Arizona I run out to watch the rain come down.  When you get my age the little things get you.  HA HA.   TARP

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Posted by Cox 47 on Saturday, August 12, 2006 10:39 AM

Morning all....sunny and cooler here today just about perfect...Zoe...I'll have the lumberjack special and coffee please....I got started on a small IC depot yesterday..May start cutting it out today...Sanded on the base of the cake pan turntable...Watched the new MR dvd  Dream plan and build...Its pretty good I think I'll keep it...

Paul...Glad to hear you got a little rain maybe you will get more this weekend...

Ed...Welcome back! We will all be waiting for your pictures...Got any projects planned for the layout?

Lisa.....Tunnel sounds good....can you post some pictures?

Mike.....Sorry to hear about kids moving to Florida..With mine just down in Robinson seems like I never get to see them..hope things work out with #1 Grand daughter...Will she go to school here in Martinsville....They didn't have a engine in yards in Paris? Do they still have a transfer caboose?

Ryan....Great progress on layout...Keep us updated...

Danny ....Good to see you in the coffee shop...

Attaboy....Like that little 0-4-0 is that maybe a fireless cooker?

Well got go I'm taking my chair up to the library to sign up for Angel Ministries....You all have a great Saturday afternoon and evening......Jerry

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Posted by TRENT B on Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:52 PM

Hey Folks,

Been a long while and 1st time with new format.

CFO and I patched things up so no big D!!Big Smile [:D]Thumbs Up [tup]

I have 5 layout bids out and one resturant install on Wed. I have missed being here and if someone would sent me a brief on whats happened that would be great.

I hpoe the avatar works and it is a pic of the 844 on the way back from Del Rio.

God bless.

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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:38 PM

 

Well time for a quick visit, diet Pepsi please, no ice.  Thank you.

 

Gloria had a couple of real good days and things are looking better.

Got a couple of new shots of Gloetown showing the new siding.  I cleaned up the table a little for these...

 

 

 

I also found some new signs, you may get a kick out of them...

 

 

 

And now for the biggy...  A new vehicle for Fergie when he gets back...

 

 

Hope you all had a great day.

 

Happy MRRing 

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Posted by SOU Fan on Saturday, August 12, 2006 7:56 PM

Luct: Love those signs, where did you find them?

inch53: who elses haulers have you seen.  Hopefully not Jimmie Johnson's.

My dad's work had a 50th anniversary "picnic" today.  It was great. the guys down at the club(part of my dad's work) brought out trains to run if we had any visitors.  One of the guys brought out 8 sound equipped enigines.  diesel and steam.  one of the other members brought out a coal train pulled b 3 kato sd45t-2's. 2 Rio Grande, and one UP.

 

that's all for now,

dekruif

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