marknewton wrote: Big Ugly Waz wrote: The DB-3, is it real ? With that paint scheme, it looks like something from the Teletubbies !!Cheers,WarrenLOL! According to my two year old son, Teletubbies go off!But yes, the DB-3 is real. If the purple and yellow doesn't appeal to you, how about these?Incidentally, you're not the bloke who's had some articles published in CM, are you?All the best,Mark.
Big Ugly Waz wrote: The DB-3, is it real ? With that paint scheme, it looks like something from the Teletubbies !!Cheers,Warren
The DB-3, is it real ? With that paint scheme, it looks like something from the Teletubbies !!
Cheers,
Warren
Mark,
The Teletubbies have always kind of freaked me out, they're kind of creepy ! It's amazing what a paint scheme can do, the blue with the white trim on the DB-3 makes the engine look quite refined, while the camo obviously serves a purpose,........................ now the purple !!!
I'm not the guy from CM, I'm lucky they let me post here, never lone be published !! LOL
Apart from the hefty price tag of the AD60, they're definitely my favorite model ( pending the release of the 38s ) and have the best sound of any steam, due to the speakers being in the boiler. Maybe you need to buy through a third party to maintain anonymity !!!
From previous posts I know of your history with 3801, what will you do when old mate releases the 38s, they are going to be a must have item ( I need 3, 3801, 3813 & 3820, I was on the last triple header, day ). Just trying to work out which bank to rob to be able to afford em !!! LOL
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For me, anything European (steam locos with those bumpers painted multi colors) have always been ugly.
American, I would have to go with a camelback: http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/camelback/camelbk1.jpg
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I agree; classy, not ugly. I've ridden in one.
What were they thinking; take some leftover unwanted automotive parts and put them on this already ugly locomotive???
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The T1 ugly? HA! I se to thee. The T1 was designed of the most graceful and elegant lines of the time by Mr. Lowey. They are in the same beauty category as the NYC streamlined Hudson's and SP's Northern's in Daylight colors, although that has to do more with the paint than design. I suppose next someone will claim the Hiawatha Atlantic locos were 'ugly'.
I wonder what a full-bodied streamlined Challenger would look like...
PA&ERR marknewton wrote: tomikawaTT wrote: If I may be permitted to go offshore in a different direction: The South Manchuria Railway had a class of "streamlined" tank locos which looked like BL-2s with cylinders and drivers. (No photo, unfortunately. Or, maybe, fortunately!) Chuck you mean the DB-3? I don't reckon they're ugly at all. " />Bachmann make them in HO, too!Cheers,Mark. Kind of gives you a renewed appreciation for black and white film! " /> -George
marknewton wrote: tomikawaTT wrote: If I may be permitted to go offshore in a different direction: The South Manchuria Railway had a class of "streamlined" tank locos which looked like BL-2s with cylinders and drivers. (No photo, unfortunately. Or, maybe, fortunately!) Chuck you mean the DB-3? I don't reckon they're ugly at all. " />Bachmann make them in HO, too!Cheers,Mark.
tomikawaTT wrote: If I may be permitted to go offshore in a different direction: The South Manchuria Railway had a class of "streamlined" tank locos which looked like BL-2s with cylinders and drivers. (No photo, unfortunately. Or, maybe, fortunately!)
If I may be permitted to go offshore in a different direction:
The South Manchuria Railway had a class of "streamlined" tank locos which looked like BL-2s with cylinders and drivers. (No photo, unfortunately. Or, maybe, fortunately!)
Kind of gives you a renewed appreciation for black and white film! " />
-George
Nah! That thing isn't that much ugly, at least they tried and you can feel it... even if in the end, they failed!!! They're quite "nice" in the big blue sky scheme... BTW, the other chinese freight steamer by Bachmann is quite an interesting engine...
I think there's two kind of uglinest. The first is plain ugly, don't try to undestand it, not redeemable. The second is so ugly it makes it adorable... On that account, I must say I feel absolutely no appeal in european "butter-box" locomotive design. It just drab. Feels like nobody care to make something different than a box and fill it with mechanical apparatus. Even a boxcab from the 20's have more appeal, probably because of the gently curved roof.
However, they've got exquisite other designs (I always loved Chemin de fer du Nord's steamers in France. They had a "PRR" feeling to them!).
What about Fairbank-Morse (and CLC)? There design is always off. Not ugly, but something is missing. I guess amateur of these rare beast are scarse. Shark nose are ridiculous... and Trainmaster redeems itself because it is ludicrously out of proportion!
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The PRR T-1 Duplex and Centipedes are two of my favorites, therefore they can't be ugly!
In all seriousness though the lines of the T-1 are just beautiful, I don't know how that can be considered ugly? The 'pedes do have a rather ugly 'only a mother can love' face to them, but that's part of the appeal. You have a giant brute of mechanical hell clad in soft baby face lines, the contrast is stunning.
The sharks carried the styling over from the T-1, so by definition, they are beautiful too ;) Uniqueness doesn't mean ugly.
I think this is inspiring me to build a couple loco's!
farrellaa What were they thinking; take some leftover unwanted automotive parts and put them on this already ugly locomotive???
Isn't the exhaust vents right up the middle of the windshields?
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That thing looks like the result of a night of unbridled (and unprotected) passion between a GE 44 tonner and a GM Aerotrain.
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Them There Are Fighting Words! I love my BL-2's there not ugly just unique!
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andrechapelon farrellaa: What were they thinking; take some leftover unwanted automotive parts and put them on this already ugly locomotive??? That thing looks like the result of a night of unbridled (and unprotected) passion between a GE 44 tonner and a GM Aerotrain. Andre
farrellaa: What were they thinking; take some leftover unwanted automotive parts and put them on this already ugly locomotive???
*Sniff*, I know, Isn't it beautiful? I want one, HO plastic.
-Morgan
Can any loco be ugly?
Well, this one´s certainly not a beauty:
It´s a Czech class T 478.3, nicknamed "Goggles".
Sir Madog Can any loco be ugly? Well, this one´s certainly not a beauty: It´s a Czech class T 478.3, nicknamed "Goggles".
Looks more like it could have been nicknamed "Sir Periscope"
citylimits I like this one - it's very different from most other locomotives - I'd buy one if it was made in plastic and place it into a display case for curiosities sake. Is there any further information on this engine? It looks like something you might find buzzing about Fords, Rouge Plant, sometime in the 1950's/1960’s I've googled the letters on the hood - V.R.R.S.A - assuming that I've gotten them right, but nothing there. I’m with you, Ken – I like the BL-2 as well especially in FEC paint and the Proto2000 version. Bruce
I like this one - it's very different from most other locomotives - I'd buy one if it was made in plastic and place it into a display case for curiosities sake.
Is there any further information on this engine? It looks like something you might find buzzing about Fords, Rouge Plant, sometime in the 1950's/1960’s
I've googled the letters on the hood - V.R.R.S.A - assuming that I've gotten them right, but nothing there.
I’m with you, Ken – I like the BL-2 as well especially in FEC paint and the Proto2000 version.
Bruce
It's RFFSA.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RFFSA
Here's a pic of one of their U-23C's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:GE_U23C_RFFSA_3920.jpg
OK guys, its my turn.................
I've never seen a loco that was truly ugly. However, some are much closer to that descriptive term than others. In that regard, I do think the question has a potential for two groups of answers.
The first would be the "one off" examples, of which there are several.
The second would be for a series of the same type of locos (i.e. BL2).
My entry for the second group - and it truly hurts me to write this for I am an avid fan - is the Illinois Central steamers with that huge square sand box on top. These locos, particularly the mountains, are massive examples of no nonsense power and strength, but those sandboxes just are downright ugly. Ha, no wonder there are no true to proto examples of them in the modeling world (ex brass special runs).
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And how about it's little brother, the GMDH-3 ???
Hmmm, Wonder if a 0-6-0 Tank chassis with new wheels would work??
This was the winner in a Trains article back in the 70's for a Rolling Mud Fence, the N&W E Class Pacific.
http://spec.lib.vt.edu/imagebase/norfolksouthern/full/ns579.jpeg
It beat out a number of locmotives like the Santa Fe 2-10-10-2 and the jointed boiler Santa Fe 2-6-6-2's.
Rick
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Rick,
does not strike me as ugly!
How´s this one:
JNR class C53 No. 43, a somewhat derailed attempt of streamlining a loco that did not even top 60 mph!
I'm going to catch all kinds of you-know-what for this one, but here goes-
EMD GP30...
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Thank you Mike, for the correction. I was reading off of the side of the locomotive – obviously its time for new spectacles.
I Googled the tag on the picture of the RFFSA engine and came up with an interesting page relating to this old dear: DH GMD 6031 VFRGS-RF Guido Mota.
The Google search revealed some interesting information that can best be accessed using this link. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMD_GMDH-1.
It was very interesting to read that these engines were built in Canada and that one of them still resides in Pakistan of all places.
ChadLRyan And how about it's little brother, the GMDH-3 ??? Hmmm, Wonder if a 0-6-0 Tank chassis with new wheels would work??
Where did you find this ...erm..."unique" specimen?
Speaking of unique specimens ....I present to you a one off....
I suspect that this should win some kind of a prize....
Actually I found it by following the the clues left by other posters on the GMDH-1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GMD_GMDH-3
Then near the bottom of the Wiki page there is a link to (1 of) the units current home in MI, they have a couple more pix on there too. And another link.
http://www.railroadmichigan.com/smrsgmdh.html
Hope that helps.
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blownout cylinder Speaking of unique specimens ....I present to you a one off.... I suspect that this should win some kind of a prize....
THIS surely must win the top prize, and that RFFSA GEU23c looks just like every other diesel locomotive (I'm a steam fan,by the way)
Ahhh, um, ah-I donno...
While researching RFFSA, I saw this DAWG, she sure has a 'sad face' imho..... NO???
A small bodied 'F' copy tends to look quite obscure, when we are used to large bodied, accomodating machines. I (in the sense of conversation of the forum) welcome any comments & thougts on this specimen...
Personally; I'm off the fence, over there, & on the 'not side' & 'not looking forward to seeing it anymore' position on this one....
( just my personal thoughts & opinions, I'm not wanting to harsh anyone's mellow! )