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No not at all 4884....you get whatever you want to get. Dont ever let somone elses opinion stop you from doing what you want to do...god knows i havnt LOL. I was just pointing out that if you DO have a layout with steep grades...you will not be able to pull a lot of cars with that locomotive. We did what we did at the RR club as an experiment beacouse of several of the members who spent $400 on one of the Rivarossi models were unable to pull anything...and i was trying to tell them that it was not the grades on the club rr but that lack of weight in the locomotives themselvs.
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