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[quote user="CurtMc"] All Bachmann diesels are as you say they are   The only way to get them to run smoothly is to drop them from on high.  For a while they will be moving smoothly and quietly [/quote] Curt,   You are 100% correct!!!!! They are the biggest piece of crap in this hobby. They do make good targets with your .22 rifle though. Botchmann has done more to hurt this hobby than all the rest combined. cf7
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