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Yeah, I see, that may be a point. (I like to fiddle with my units a little, but only if I must!). I think most people feel if you're gonna spend the money, it BETTER be for a sound, solid running engine. My N scale Bachman Dash8 is absolutely terrible, but some people I've talked to were puzzled and say that it's a good (not great) engine. I'm getting a Kato motor swapped into it from an old Atlas I have though. This is a good thread to have though. It let's us all read about others personal experience with some of the technically challenged engines out there. Gives you a thought before you invest your money in a certain model or two. <br /> Pete
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