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[quote]QUOTE: Well perhaps the newer ones run well...[/quote] No, they don't run well i was just stating they pull a lot.(it may not out pull the U33C but it would be darn close) The F40PH jerks when it starts and stops so it's hard to keep anything on the track. I suspect top speed is well over 200 scale miles per hour. (but it is a passenger engine) Roadtrp glad someone else dislikes regular Bachamnn. Well let those people buy engines for $30 just because they're DCC. Just because Bachmann is willing to fix it that doesn't make it a good prouduct. I've learned my lesson about buying cheap stuff. DISCLAIMER- this is just my opinion. I am not here to offend anyone.
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