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I dont know what all the fuss is about with 4x8 with enough size i have a 4x8 and it has a downtown section 6-10 buildings 5 sidings yes five (can hold 7-9 cars each) a roadhouse( holds 1 loco at a time), a huge lake, a waterfall, a park a dead forest and a major road running through it, u just have to know what to do with it and how to do it right, i can run my dash 9, 6 wheel round the track at full speed without derails on a modified 18" radius, lets see on track right now i have a 7 car coal, 12 car impack, 8 car boxcar and 6 locos from sidings to roundhouse <br /> <br />
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