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I can see both sides of the coin on this issue. Last November I was looking to join a club for N-scale or Z-scalers. This group met every Saturday. However, Saturday is my only day off. Going down there every Saturday sort of messed that up. I didn't want to join something that I wasn't sure if I could give it my best. I found some people in the group receptive and some just outright aloof and unfriendly. Perhaps it was because I"m a woman and they didn't want me in their boys club, but I really don't like to play that card. I just wanted to learn more about scenery. This club was really in trouble. I got to hear the scoop from both camps on what was wrong with the club. Both sides had very valid points. But the problem was that both sides were so far apart on their vision for the club and unable to meet somewhere in the middle. Eventually, the ones who wanted to see more organization and a better product put out at train shows left to form their own club. And quite frankly, one other reason that I didn't really want to continue with the current club was because the group that was left had no desire to put a quality product out at train shows.. Their modules were ratty looking and torn up. It's like living in a house for 15 years, you think everything looks great until you go to sell your house and the realtor hands you a reality check. I'm still not in a train club, choosing to work projects as a joint effort with my boyfriend. To the Ironhorseman, your comments about leadership came off a little heavy handed. I'm sure this was not your intent, but could be perceived as such. As a restaurant manager, I have to tell people what to do all day long. It's not always so much what you say but how you say it. Everybody wants to be treated with dignity and respect. I deal with teen-agers who have landed their first job right down to working with the Hispanics in the kitchen who have limited English skills and can have a real problem with a woman as an authority figure. The same guys who busted my chops 2 1/2 years ago now call me "tia" or aunt. On any given day in any given group of people you will always have the worker bees and the slackers. Some people show up and they are just there, try to do as little and possible and pass off what they can to others. Then there are those who show up on time, leave on time - do no more or no less than what's expected. Then there are those who work hard, take on extra jobs and assignments. Learn more than what's expected. That's the way the world goes 'round. Anyway, that's my dollar's worth. I may someday join a club, but for now I'll stay on my own. Judy
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