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1/64 scale diecast on an HO scale layout?

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1/64 scale diecast on an HO scale layout?
Posted by bandit0517 on Friday, March 17, 2006 8:29 PM
I saw some pretty nice looking John Deere die cast stuff today at the store in 1/64 scale. Do you think they would look too large on an HO scale layout, specifically as loads on 50' flatcars?

Your opinions would be greatly appreciated.
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Posted by GAPPLEG on Friday, March 17, 2006 8:35 PM
They are really large, the same products are made in 1/ 87 also, and they do show up in the store (wal-mart, k-mart) but they disappear fast.
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Posted by waltersrails on Friday, March 17, 2006 8:46 PM
no kidding........
I like NS but CSX has the B&O.
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Posted by warhammerdriver on Friday, March 17, 2006 8:58 PM
The 1/87 John Deere stuff has been clearanced at my WalMart.
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Posted by myred02 on Friday, March 17, 2006 9:22 PM
Well, it might work, but it would be much wiser to go out to Wal-Mart and buy some of that newly-clearanced stuff. [:)]

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Posted by randyaj on Friday, March 17, 2006 10:02 PM
Why not just buy 1/64 trains to do with the die cast models? S scale trains are 1/64 and one of the pleasures that I have as one who has just recently switched from HO to S is the plethra of cars, trucks and farm equipment that is available in S scale. I also love the size of my trains!
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Posted by tomikawaTT on Friday, March 17, 2006 10:24 PM
Had a similar question in the forums recently about an overscale pickup truck. The problem is that people know how big people are, and it is obvious that a 1/64 scale tractor would require an operator 9 feet tall in HO, even if they have never seen any farm machinery close up.

A 1/96 or smaller vehicle is easier to use, either as scenery away from the viewer (forced perspective) or pretending to be smaller models for hobby farmers.

Unfortunately, perspective only forces one way. The largest scale item that looks reasonable is the same scale as the trains.

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Posted by chutton01 on Saturday, March 18, 2006 12:43 AM
Generally only certain trucks from Matchbox/Hot Wheels/Johnny Lightning look OK, since they are smaller than 1/64 scale: for example, the older GMC TopKick model (usually sold as a municipal snow plow) can make a fair looking near HO truck model (with new frame and new paint etc.)
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 18, 2006 11:27 AM
Actually many older (sixties) matchbox trucks are usable in ho,just the cabs though,also some nineties bodys are usable also.


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Posted by bcawthon on Saturday, March 18, 2006 1:31 PM
Don't forget Matchbox vehicles aren't always 1/64 scale; more often they are scaled to the package. Several trucks are pretty close to HO scale.
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:25 PM
QUOTE: Originally posted by randyaj

Why not just buy 1/64 trains to do with the die cast models? S scale trains are 1/64 and one of the pleasures that I have as one who has just recently switched from HO to S is the plethra of cars, trucks and farm equipment that is available in S scale. I also love the size of my trains!
Randy


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Posted by jecorbett on Saturday, March 18, 2006 2:39 PM
You guys who switched to S from HO are giving me second thoughts. I certainly have room for it, a 46X26 open basement with nothing but the mechanicals and the stairway competing for the space. Unfortunately, I have too much invested in time and money to consider the switch now. I love the size of S scale and HO becomes harder on my eyes with each passing year. I wish I'd had this conversation with myself 5 years ago.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:18 PM
i have about 300 1/64 john deere models... its another one of my hobbies... if your interested in 1/64 farm machinery ... check out... www.toytractorshow.com...

but any how... i wouldnt use 1/64 on an HO layout... they look way to out of scale
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:30 PM
Actually some of Matchbox's vehicles are HO scale. it seems the scale is dictated more by packaging. The GMC topkick and chevy snowplow as well as the Ford power company truck are all perfectly HO scale. Although you may want to replace their toy style wheels with some more realistic ones from Busch or Herpa. The helicopters labelled proper chopper are HO scale too. ERTL used to sell some nice HO stuff especially a `95 dodge ram pick-up but they don't anymore which sucks because they were nice models.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 18, 2006 5:55 PM
I have shopped the 1/87 at kmart and walmart. The cars at walmart are picked over fast and the john deere was gone the last time I was in. Some one wrote that the smaller sizes are choking hazzards for small children and that would keep some manufacturers from making them which I expect is very true. Glad to hear the info on matchbox and others. I will have to take the ruler with me the next time I go shopping for vehicles. I like HO because of my limited space for trains but I do use 1/64 vehicles. Happy Railroading. Phil
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Posted by randyaj on Saturday, March 18, 2006 9:34 PM
Jecorbett,
That is what I wrestled with myself before I decided to switch. I have just completed selling most of my HO on ebay and am in the process of reivesting the procedes. It was a big task that took a lot of time but I think that it was worth it! The experience was almost all enjoyable with only a couple of honery buyers, and it really feels worth it with the delivery of my new American Models Northern that arrived today via my wife picking it up at my LHS. What a beauty!!! Anyway if there is a will there is a way.
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Posted by Anonymous on Saturday, March 18, 2006 10:16 PM
There ARE many models of farm stuff in HO. I curerntly have 1/64 automobiles in the town on my layout but I need to get some HO scale ones.
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Posted by bcawthon on Sunday, March 19, 2006 1:38 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by bandit0517

I saw some pretty nice looking John Deere die cast stuff today at the store in 1/64 scale. Do you think they would look too large on an HO scale layout, specifically as loads on 50' flatcars?

Your opinions would be greatly appreciated.


While we can go on and on about 1/64 scale vehicles and HO layouts, I think 1/64 John Deere tractors would definitely look too large on an HO flat. Remember, they are 1/64 scale in width, too.

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