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The initial Lionel HO offering is a UP 4-6-6-4 Challenger.Die cast with lots of added detail. Seven hundred dollars American. That's entering the collector market, and the deep-pockets market. And after all these years, Athearn is going into steam profiles, with what ? Yes, a UP 4-6-6-4 Challenger. IMHO, the serious HO steam loco market is looking for frequently seen locomotives in smaller prototype sizes, like a 'modern' 4-4-0, 4-6-0, 2-8-0, 2-8-2 etc....but market research at Rivarossi, Marklin-Trix, BLI, and now Athearn & Lionel indicates that special, rare, expensive, articulated is what will give them the best return on capital.[:0] Go figure. regards \ Mike
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