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will an electric train set shock you if you touch both rails at the same time?

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will an electric train set shock you if you touch both rails at the same time?
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:02 AM
?
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:15 AM
a bump, just a yes hurts like heck, yes but just a light zap or a no would be great
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Posted by SpaceMouse on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:20 AM
Just an itty bitty bit.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:22 AM
thanks spacemouse :) , didn't know and wanted to know how worried to be with the kids....
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Posted by andrechapelon on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:54 AM

Only if you paid full retail for it.

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Posted by trainboyH16-44 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 12:57 AM
With 18 volts, you can feel a very slight tingling, but nothing more...unless you lick them or press your lips to the rails. Not that is a shock!

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Posted by Budliner on Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:04 AM
you get off it quick when you feel it
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Posted by Medina1128 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:00 AM
There's no real harm, unless you're running high voltage (10,000 volts) or a lot of current, 50 amps or so, should do it. The high voltage will shock you.. the high current will burn you. So, as you've been warned above, keep your mouth and lips off the track.
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Posted by bsteel4065 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:04 AM
I love trainboyH16-44 response to this! 'If you press your lips against the rail'!!! This is taking your love for the hobby WAY too far!
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Posted by UNIONPACIFIC4018 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 5:38 AM
Back when I had DC and in a hot sweaty garage I would get a shock, the sweat on my arms helped zap me when my arm would touch both rails.

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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 6:03 AM
Maybe with your tongue. You guys gotta be kiddin. you can't feel 18 volts. Hell, I can't even feel a 12 volt car battery, and some of them have over 1000 amps! Yall got good imaginations. Merry Christmas.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 7:23 AM
You can bet in recent years you would have read articles with headlines "Two Kids Killed by Electric Trains!", "State to Ban Electric Trains", or "Electric train volts linked to kids cancer", or some such stuff so common in America. Government investigations. Bans in some states. Consumer Reports rates the safest eletric trains for kids. Etc. Etc. I don't think it's happening. Someone correct me if I'm wrong. I think they're still safe. I love bsteel4065's comment on kissin' the tracks!
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Posted by cacole on Sunday, December 25, 2005 7:31 AM
Unless you have abnormally sensitive skin, the voltage on model railroad track is too low for you to feel it, even with wet skin. If you feel any tingling at all, it's probably static electricity from your body discharging into the rail, especially if you have a carpeted floor. And if your body has too high a static charge when you touch the rail, it can destroy a DCC system or the decoders within locomotives.
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Posted by IRONROOSTER on Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:21 AM
One year when I set up a train under the tree our dog went over to sniff the tracks and touched his nose to both tracks. He jumped and started barking at the train but never went near it again. He lived to a ripe old age so it had no lasting effect but he never was fond of my trains.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 8:29 AM
Beware! Such rails can carry 16,000 Millivolts!

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Posted by Big_Boy_4005 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:36 AM
Metal watch bands can be painful.
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Posted by pcarrell on Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:40 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by trainboyH16-44

With 18 volts, you can feel a very slight tingling, but nothing more...unless you lick them or press your lips to the rails. Not that is a shock!


Speaking from experience?

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Posted by Leon Silverman on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:43 AM
Yes, If you are a dog with a wet nose. I remember when I set up my HO trains on the floor as a youngster and watching my dog coming over the "sniff" the tracks. She moved back real fast.
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Posted by dave9999 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:02 AM
"will an electric train set shock you if you touch both rails at the same time?"

The "short" answer is no [:D]. Get it... "short"... nevermind.
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Posted by trainfreek92 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:07 AM
it does not hurt sometimes you can feel it but not always as others have said please dont make out with the rails[:I] it does spark if you run a skrew driver over the rails though. Tim
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Posted by cmurray on Sunday, December 25, 2005 11:25 AM
QUOTE: Originally posted by FundyNorthern

Beware! Such rails can carry 16,000 Millivolts!

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Posted by ereimer on Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:00 PM
if your skin is wet you'll feel it , if not you probably won't .

the way i learned to test if a 9 volt battery is good was to stick the 2 contacts on my tongue . you feel it , and taste it . on a dry finger you can't feel it . it's not enough to do any damage though . then i bought a multimeter and now i test batteries the right way [:)]
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 1:57 PM
Short answer, no, at least not with a 12v DC set (like the majority of HO and N sets). Even on the 24v? AC used for large scale digital setups you'll just get a nip - not enough to harm you. I've had more than a few and I'm still standing. The power supplies we use are carefully regulated to avoid putting enough power onto the rails to hurt us.

There was, once, in the jurassic era of model trains, an electric train that ran directly from the 240V AC mains current. It was made by Hornby and was their first electric loco, a model of a London Underground 4-axle electric loco in O (it'd be described as a boxcab on a US line, two of the real thing are preserved). It was quickly withdrawn for obvious reasons (allegedly there were government objections), and Hornby went over to 6V, then 20V, then the 12V DC that we still use today. The original sets are now highly prized collectors items despite their lethal tendencies. There may well have been others at the same time, but this was around 90 years ago.

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Posted by ngartshore350 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 2:54 PM
I have had the wet skin on the arm experience, but that was about it. Kissing the rails?! Mmmm, I'll leave that to the experts.

Maybe "Don't kiss the Rails" might become a new warning on train sets!
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Posted by joecool1212 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 3:11 PM
Glad I read this tread I was gonna lick the rails to se if they were clean. LOL
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 9:54 PM
I remember one time, when I was running trains. On one of my layouts(I have tunnels ) and I had a dirty section of track in that tunnel . I didnt know what I was thinking, I should have unplugged the pack to that layout. Instead I reached into the tunnel to clean the section and my arm got stuck abit. Beleive me I felt a little bite. It was a little suprise. hahaha.
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Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:21 PM
It does say on the box . "warnning electric shock can occur"
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Posted by coborn35 on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:26 PM
Try that on a 3 rail Lionel. OUCH! (kinda spilled pop on my hands at the time....)

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Posted by dougfearon on Sunday, December 25, 2005 10:36 PM
Lick the rails? Whoa don't ever do that for that moment you would be short sighted and not see the train. Train time is any time.

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